[1181] A TRAP For Pickers! The Clever Hines Key System Picked

čas přidán 17. 10. 2020
The referenced video: [527] Pickproof your Kwikset For Less Than $1 cs-tv.org/tv/video-7JlgKCUqzA0.html

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  • why would a ketchup company make locks

  • why would a ketchup company make locks

  • i'll just break my window when i forget my key i guess

  • They could have made this such a success if they had made all pins trap pins but then randomized exactly which pin gets the 2 pin traps.

  • One big problem that I see. Sure the ring blocks you from drilling the sheer line. However, you could just drill above it through the springs and part of the top pins, and then press the bottom pins up with a hook pick and pull the top pins out with tweezers.

  • This should be named 'LPL and the deadly hollows'

  • My Grandma still has this lock on her door. Super smooth.

  • vibration of the right intensity and frequency might bounce those three hollow pins out of the trap grooves.

  • The big problem with this lock is that if somebody has multple Hines locks and accidentally uses wrong key in wrong lock, the lock will fail and the key is trapped.

  • In other words to make a even harder to pick lock the drop hollow pins should be random instead of just some

  • Clever! You know I could see LPL on on plane next to somebody crackimg their knuckles, and him saying 'click out of 1, 2 is binding..."

  • Objection! Those are springs, not 'pins.'

  • LPL gonna go through comments and start calling y’all out too

  • What good is a lock that can't be opened with a key after somebody tried to pick it? Or did I misunderstand your introduction to this video? JMO.

  • Wouldn't a better strategy be to have those circular groves next to all pins, and randomly place between 3 and 6 hollow pins in? You could have hollow pins in all 6, or pins 1,2,5. The picker wouldn't know. Or couldn't you have 2 shorter hollow pins with a spacer below. Then you'd need 3 clicks out of random cylinders.

  • You know if you made one with 5 of those trap pin groves and allowed the trap pins to be randomized it would certainly make picking for anyone not experienced difficult (or it would mean you would try all the pins looking for a second sheer line.) I'm kinda surprised that it didn't catch on. Am I missing something? Is there a reason this isn't a normal thing?

  • Woah that looks just like the lock Jerry had in Seinfeld

  • Can you pick these types of locks already installed into a real oak wooden door? I notice a lot of your hand movements are going behind the lock to either hold a pick or the lock. The question is, wouldnt these tests be more accurate if you actually had a door there that you could completely install the lock and then pick it?

  • A Segal with no Bullshido😝😝😆😆❤️❤️❤️

  • one of the smartest kids i knew in school was a ' lock nut'...The engineering draws smart people.

  • Is there a way to reset it without taking it apart ?

  • Doesn't he have something like this for his door?

  • I wonder if there's a way to have a lock like that where it's possible to reset it after a failed pick attempt, so like if someone tried to pick it you wouldn't be screwed lol. Hell even something that time released would probably be sufficient. I mean this seems good enough to keep out a lot of petty casual thieves, unless you really know what you're doing and recognize it you're likely going to trigger the mechanism.

  • That was fun!

  • do you have a video of you reassembling the lock after you took it apart like the one in this video

  • in case you lock the pins, will it work if you turn over it to help gravity release those?

  • nice thanks for the video

  • How would you approach this if the grooves were milled in random positions and the picker wasn't aware which slots had groove traps?

  • I doubt if its an old lock,or its been modified cause the screws used have a cross + and old locks have line - screws,but i like your video,s cause i learn from it..thankz and a subber added.

  • Wouldn't it essentially make a lock unpickable if the trap pins were randomly placed and in various counts?

  • Super interesting video! Thanks

  • Oh, okay - pins 2,3,4 to the second shear line; got it. I can pick a lot of locks by trial and error but I lack the sophistication to comprehend much in the way of feedback beyond the tension tool moving. And I'm hopeless determining what pin I'm on beyond #1.

  • Hallowpinia lock

  • These companies can't resist advertising themselves on all their products. You'd think locks would want to be anonymous so you've got no idea what kind of lock it is. They might as well just print instructions on the locks for how to open them, and warnings about any traps included.

  • *LPL robbing a convenience store* LPL: wheres your safe? Worker: in the back LPL: Wheres the key? Worker: Idk LPL: Fine I’ll do it myself *starts picking* LPL: …..small click on 4 and we got it open. *closes safe* LPL: Now let me do that again to let you know it was not a fluke.

  • How do you know they were 2,3 and 4 without unlocking it with the key and pulling it apart first? That's cheaties bro. Do all locks from this company have the roundy haha I got you side things on 2,3 and 4 or are they different on different locks so you won't know without stripping it first? What if a new company comes up with this or a similar idea? Could you pick it if you didn't know? Lots of questions LPL, presume you got this but throw me some light for the shade. Afan.

  • seems like the most brilliant lock i have seen so far out of 40...60.. 100.. videos.

  • They could have increased security by varying the positions and number of trap pins in each lock so that it would be harder for a picker to tell at first glance how to avoid them. You can’t just memorize to go to the 2nd click on 2 3 and 4 when each lock has different trap pins

  • so if the traps were random would that fix the problem?

  • it would be a good idea to make versions with traps in different locations. ...

  • Where did you get your equipment for disassembling the locks? eg. Tray, tweezers etc.?

  • My grandparents flat had a similar looking lock from the inside it was a really larger knob that engaged it. Always thought it looked cool.

  • I actually managed to predict how the system works based on your description of how to avoid the trap (i didn't exactly predict a hollow pin, but i predicted something similar - extra holes that only the top driver pins in 2, 3 and 4 would fit into).

  • Amazing. How does the owner open the lock if the trap sets accidentally?

  • "I'll know from ten feet away that it's the Hines Key System" Well it does say that right on the lock, it's not like they're hiding it

  • The prob with that lock is that it may slow down a lock picker but it is an invitation for malicious mischief & will lock someone out of their house requiring payment to a locksmith or carpenter to re & re that lock... so not a great way to stop a lock picker since it is at the expense of the home owner

  • Very interesting thank you!

  • An idea for a stronger lock using the same idea. Add one of these hollow pins on the keypin, so if you push the pin too far it will also trap. So you then have 3 shear lines, but you have to hit 2 to bypass. (Then you could also add a second hollow pin to some driver pins randomly, so you then dont know which shear line to go to 2/3 or 3/4)

  • Best in business.

  • I'm not a burglar nor interested in lockpicking but for some reason, I just keep watching your vids...is something wrong with me?

  • I’m pretty sure my great grandmother had this on her door. I know she at least had the large bulky part that was left in the box at the beginning of the video.

  • Imagine if the trap pins were randomized.

  • The inventor of this is extremely clever

  • This is the longest I’ve ever seen LPL take on a lock

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  • Is it possible to use the photo of the key at the end to make a copy?

  • So if you put the trap pins in a random order for every lock its almost pick proof or you will loose most of the time

  • Why not have the traps on random pins? Would it make a difference if you don't know which pins to double-set?

  • Imagine you’re just about to fall asleep and you hear “little click out of one, two is binding” 😂

  • You should do a "How to Pick Locks" series. That would be awesome.

  • you're good man!!

  • I want to see him put this sucker back to normal.

  • yes but if the barrell was in a door , and you have walls obstructing its not quite as easy , your hand is all over the back of the barrell and that my friend is cheating

  • I’m glad your not a theif

  • I'm glad he took the suggestion I've made about segal, I see these locks a ton in old Chicago buildings that are still in operation

  • Looks like you also appreciate the Wiha screwdriver set that won design awards, built in collaboration with Xiaomi. Nice piece of kit!

  • Even though it is a old lock with great resistance to being picked, you would have thought that it would have evolved into a better designed lock that’s has a greater resistance to being picked. Thanks for showing us your videos, great fun to watch..

    • It is a FAILED design bcuz the heightened security against a lock picker comes at the expense of the home owner who is also locked out & leaves open the avenue of malicious mischief that sees a home owner having to call a locksmith/carpenter to gain entry to their own house anytime someone who doesn't like them messes with their locks... that is the reason he said this lock is from the 60's & not the 2020's

  • Those divits look miniscule. Could you brute force the key to force the pins out? Maybe by turning the key with pliers?

  • Could this trap be deactivated by smacking it with a hammer while turning the plug with the lock removed from the door?

  • Hmm, clever. As long as picker doesn't know about it.

  • Why are the fake pins always 2,3,4? Wouldn't random be better?

  • Is this where Sega stole the Sega for the Sega rally logo?

  • As fascinating as the LPL is to watch, I find it hard to understand exactly who benefits from a channel like this other than people who are interested in picking locks illegally or people who are interested or engaged in a career that involves locks. It’s a bit like showing people exactly how to build bombs because there may be people who are interested in bomb disposal watching! Just my 2 cents.

  • I kinda get why this kind of lock isn't too popular and it doesn't get made anymore. Imagine getting picked often and having to break down the whole thing every time because not even the real keys work anymore. It is a very niche lock, but it looks like a real pain to use.

  • May you translate to Spanish please?

  • So simple but so devious.

  • What does the owner do if someone perma locks their door?

    • You can disassemble it from the inside still, otherwise you're gonna have to break in yourself.

  • This might be a dumb question: if you machine the edges of those circular grooves, could you make it so the lock doesn’t completely seize, but still prevents rotation? That way it’s difficult to pick but doesn’t require disassembly if a pick is attempted?

  • Wow

  • I'm starting to think that there's no such thing as a truly pick-proof lock. In fact, most don't even seem to be that difficult to pick

    • That's like saying that running 15 miles an hour isn't hard after watching the Olympics. Lpl is a world class picker and not a good representation of your average thief.

  • You know you did a good job when the main thing you could do to make the lock better is to not put your name on it.

  • A bad lock picker: I'm about to ruin the house owners career.

  • I feel like that's standard in NYC apartments.

  • Folks i was wondering what is the most difficult and secure lock that lpl has ever encountered? Anyone that has extensive knowledge on this channel may elaborate?

    • Probably either the ones from stuff made here, or bowely. The former he was able to open because of a shoddy door, the latter remains unpicked.

  • What is the name of these kinds of locks? With the long metal thingy out the back

  • Sega makes locks??

  • Who would of thought watching someone pick locks could be so interesting. Subscription is a must.

  • Now I want to get one and cover the label… I know that if someone tried to pick it, I would also be locked out, and they may just break the door down after, but it might keep them busy a little while longer lol

  • Matco hyperstep drill bits, try those on a non-drillable lock. Id even send ya the drill bit.

  • "Hey Doc, what's the future like?".."Welllll Marty, they have this thing called ..'The internet!'.. its a network of computers that talk to each other and you watch lock picking cinema all day long"..."Woah Doc, thats heavy"

  • This video and [527] are the first videos I've seen that have really helped me understand exactly what the hell is happening with at least SOME of the lock-picking I've seen. Really awesome stuff!

  • As AVE says "Put your **ck in a Vice". (lock of cause....)

  • Im just glad I'm not the one putting that lock back together

  • Damn the such simple decision in the construction made such reliable defense!

  • LPL : "Mortal humans only get one chance to pick this open. I tried a core spinner 10 times"

  • Why am I watching this?

  • Intense - so they definitely blew the game by not going with stealth. Could have hardened without showing off.

  • Ive seen that type of plug before. But did not know what the little dimples on the side were for. That also explains why the person who taught me over 20 years ago. The plug got stuck. Thx for clearing up that mystery for me.

  • If the only thing holding the lock secure would be 3 hollow tubular pins, could you insert something into the keyway and force the lock round? After all it's not solid pins holding the trap, rather weaker hollow pins.

  • I think that is a great idea. I noticed the name Hines. I wonder if I am related (most likely distantly if at all). Who knows what they will think of next.