Check in with Turn 10 Studios and Forza Motorsport as the development team reveals how they’re building cars, tracks and audio that take full advantage of the Xbox Series X|S.
As much as I love the collector aspect in horizon, I really hope this has real progression. I want to earn my cars, get attached to them. I want to do a full championship in a shit box and slowly upgrade it
@LastWil All racing games seem to do this now where you start with a half decent car and then within a couple hours you have a 500 million £$€ garage. I miss the days of starting in a hatchback and working your way up to the Bugatti, Lambo and so on. You feel like you earned it then. This is why GT started to loose it's appeal when you could buy cars. Cos if you give players the option to buy cars for real money it takes away from those who earned it.
I kinda hate this take tbh. A lot of us just want to compete against one another with an unrestricted access to whatever cars we want. Since 15 years ago I've been collecting cars. Now I just want to race.
@Apollo XV No it wouldn't. That's why you have difficulty options. Like traction control, abs, steering assist... So those who aren't that good can still perform well. Then those who want the more realistic experience can turn them off.
@Apollo XV I don’t think I did, unless you’re suggesting that you are a professional race car driver (which to be fair I did imply that I doubt that you are), or that you don’t drive sims for fun. Just because you didn’t directly say something with the intention of discouraging the aforementioned groups doesn’t mean that the snobbery and disdain that you and those like you show towards FM and other “childish” games doesn’t have the same impact on them.
Would love to see 'Windshield Banner customization' as part of livery design options! It would really give the feeling that the cars that you modify belong on the race track. Minor I know, but not many games do this and most of the cars in real life series have this. The livery customisation in Forza games is already great, but for a motorsport focused entry into the series it would be right at home. Very low on the priority list I'm sure, but cool nonetheless.
Me gusta todas las actualizaciones acerca del aspecto de imagen del juego, pero me gustaría que hubiera mas desarrollo en el aspecto de sensación al conducir, mejores aspectos en sensaciones de realidad en frenada y movimientos mas realistas en el auto.
@KiwiStyles bruh your never gonna get anything good if you dont have patience. How you gamers can vomplain about unfinished games but when a game takes more than 2 years to develop its too sliw pick which one you want because hood games arent gonna get any quicker to make
@David Yeah, I don’t actually drive a car; I just have my chauffeur drive me around town in my Rolls Royce 😎. Lol. Jk. 🤣. But I still think Forza would make a fantastic racing simulator if they worked on the in-game physics.
I love Forza Motorsport, always come back to play a couple of laps on the Nurburgring. Hopefully it is back and I hope they offer 120 fps in the near future.
I have been playing Forza since the beginning and have loved all of them but I hope they don’t shy away from the heart of Forza but make it the biggest baddest one yet. Hopefully there will be more engine combinations and swaps and some of the old cars like the country squire. Can’t wait to get it and play it.
I'm excited, wish list would be a high def version of Fundidora Park Raceway, Monterrey, Mexico. Indycar raced there, last time in 2004 i believe. And I want that "HPDE" feeling, FM1 kind of had that feeling when you would choose your region when starting and most tracks would be in that region for the first couple of times. Interior car customization, different brands for upgrades that have different specs (for example one exhaust weighs less than another but makes more peak HP, or another one has less peak HP but a flatter power line, or one has more torque vs HP) Different wing options would be sweet as well
In the first Forza Motorsport on the original Xbox if you hit or scrape the concrete wall, you can actually see the car’s paint color on the concrete wall itself. That was a really cool attention to detail for a racing game in that time. It will be great to see something like that in the newer games.
I'd like to see more about Forza's driving mechanic's realism factor as well as information around how car data is collected. How do you ensure each car behaves the same as it's real life counterpart?
@Rchey Snarfs In that case most are "simcade" It's hard to get every cars geometry all the way down to the motion ratios and how the suspension design as far as tie rods/control arms/angles and etc. But regardless just getting realistic car behaviors down is good. Meaning my race car in the game might have to be modded differently to achieve the results I want out of the car, but I would like those results to be able behave the same as real life. Makes for good practice.
They don't, this game is a simcade and not a simulator. They'll get authentic enough handling based on a vehicles weight distribution + downforce + grip.
Make sure this game comes out perfectly fine just like the other guy said take your time but I’m really glad you guys are coming out with the new one. I’ve been waiting a long time for this can’t wait.
I have always been a huge fan of the forza series ever since I was introduced at forza Motorsport 3. But they should definitely add lil tweaks to the look of the game when inside the car like for example steering wheel rotation degree and also camera adjustment cause some cars have weird first person views compared to others.
I believe the graphics and sounds will be really good, like other forza games as usual. But I wonder why the dev never do a marketing scene where they talks about tyre physics, penalty system, pit stop, etc.. you know, something’s important in a ‘motorsport’ world..
They'll hype it all up and make the footage look awesome. But wait until the actual game comes out before you purchase it. Remember all the "in-game footage" of the pit crews in FM6 but there wasn't a single person on the track in the pits? I love the series but they have a habit of deceptive and untruthful marketing.
@ExoticTE77 I know they can't make something as elaborate as BeamNG or Wreckfest, but if they can't really do anything then why spend so much time talking about it and why try to make it seem as if it's some big new revelation
@HawfHuman they literally cannot make a realistic damage model because of licensing. The way they describe it is scratches exactly how they would appear based on what you bump and where which is cool considering many companies that would flip out if they saw their car damaged
I'm really stoked to play the new Forza game, one thing I think they should add is the odometer where the speed tachometer, just to see how much you've driven each car.
Told myself I was done buying video games, but this is incredible. It seems like something an “adult” would play which makes me feel less guilty for wanting it so bad.
My biggest concern about this trailer is that you guys spent more time talking about how realistic your paint is, than talking about any gameplay-relevant aspects such as game modes or how the progression is gonna work. Those things are all pretty cool, especially the new sounds which are a long overdue thing imo, but literally all I know about this game right now, is that it's pretty to look at. I'm fairly sure players will be more busy thinking about how well your cars drive, how fun it is to progress in your career, get new cars, upgrade them, etc, rather than closely inspecting your multi layered car paint.
It’s the same old thing under the new coat of paint, it has been like this ever since 2015. If they got anything new, they would not hold it back like this.
@Azali No... Forza was never built or designed to be a sim. It's always been designed as the mid between a "Need for Speed" and a Sim... Basically "Realistic" but not alienating. Not trying to be that guy but there are plenty of Sims out there for those that want it.... Forza is not a Sim, and never will be.
@Vulture Damage modeling is actually limited by licensing agreements... Dead serious. Licensing cars in games doesn't allow for "excessive" damages. That's why they went so heavy on dirt and cosmetic damages...
I'm curious about turbo flutter when changing your air intakes if noise will change . Also if you spent out and don't hold the clutch in will the car kill. Last thing will the g920 be compatible with lsb and rsb button mapping?
When talking about detail, I’m a man of detail and the things that I like to see is the cars features , such as changing the color of the interior, upgrades for sure is a big item to execute , we wanna see the parts change on the car as you upgrade , bigger turbos , aftermarket supercharger ,intercooler being present especially when you upgrading a N/A car , I wanna see these the parts I buy , new exhaust tips or mufflers …….also the cars crashes on the Forza franchise has always seemed arcade which kinda singles itself away from the simulation of the game let’s seem the cars actually roll and total out or the damages actually look real wherever the gets hit at …I think you get what I’m saying here
Instead of the hideous traditional Forza wing, they should take some inspiration from GT7 with custom wings where you can change the stand, support and side blades.
Only thing that bugged me is the fact that we are still using the same Forza aero that we've been using since what Forza Motorsport 5? Other than that everything else looks incredible
@El Loco copy and paste from other games? hahaaha but it was literally Forza Horizon that redefined the genre, before Horizon we only had Need For Speed and simulators 🤣🤦♂️
@x808drifter bro the first fm i played was fm2. those were the golden days. FM4 is the lastforza that i actually finish. The sense of progression, the obvious attention to the cars, you could feel the developers actually love cars.
If T10 really did build a new game "from the ground up" they wouldn't be featuring their most hated feature, the ugliest wing in gaming history, which is forced on players to have decent car builds. This forza will be the same rehash as always. And yes I've played every FM. I'm a fan. I'm an OG. That's why I'm disappointed as usual.
And hopefully the car customization is better as well. With more body kits, wheels, spoilers, be able to change exhausts and mufflers, more drift cars and drift tracks this time
I have a mid-level Thrustmaster wheel/pedals. It's wasted on this game ($1500 with load cell). The poor physics engine makes for a childish waste of time, and money. There's far better titles to choose from. Even Nascar2003 offers a much more realistic drive--it's free and there's no constant 'attitude' from admin..
I really hope the vinyl editor gets fixed with most vehicles at least! I like to make my own personal race car liveries and its frustrating when you apply vinyl to the hood/roof and yet it falls off onto the fender, bumper, or the quarter panels. Other than that the gameplay looks fun!! Looking forward to more engaging accidents let's gooo!!👉🤯👈
Sounds fantastic. What will the in-game monetisation look like, will cars (as opposed to cosmetics) be able to be unlocked through an in-game currency mechanic that is tied to real world purchases or will that be purely game placed or a mixture of both?
Who knows, but Forza hasn't had any microtransactions since Forza Horizon 3, so it's likely that it will continue. Of course, they will still charge for the same things as VIP membership and car packs, just like before.
One thing that I’m still hoping for that not a lot of people for some reason talk about, is the steering wheel being able to turn more than 90 degrees, no Forza game has ever had any sort of steering animation past 90 degrees, Im hoping we might see this possibly in the new Motorsport.
@Lwazi Luvuyo what??? We have games that keep us very satisfied. Like assetto corsa, asseto competizione, rfactor 2, Ams2, project cars 2, dirt 2. Awesomes video games. Forza is Just like granturismo or NFS
I hope they get more contracts this time around. Having cars that I love not in the next game is something that disappoints me every year, and I'm not the only one.
The track racing looks similar to current. Interested to see how this compares to iRacing as far as car feel. I wish they could play that sim and use that. I feel however it will be another arcade game.
A lot of talk about the tech behind the graphics and audio, but I wished we'd get more of a breakdown on the tech behind the driving and how handling, and info and stuff like the pit lane.
@Criminal Mindz something tells me you did not play Forza Motorsport 7 for the first like 3 years of the game being out because nothing worked everything crashed FM7 was the start of shitty racing games because unfortunately we haven't got anything good since either if it's sim or arcade
For all the progress they've made with some of the new things added to this game. Am I the only one who think that track commentators may be the best? like are we talking announcers narrating the race? cuz if so I've been waiting for that in a race game for so long lol
90% of nothing is still nothing dude. They havent told us anything other than the graphics. Plus all the info we did get is already in FM7 and FH5. So they've told us essentially nothing.
It's been a long time since I've been able to touch a Forza apart from the Forza Horizon, because Forza doesn't have in mind to become an icon of sim racing (what I'm looking for), the game is much too arcade. I plan to stay with Assetto Corsa Competizione, Automobilista etc. This is real racing and the possibility to play in VR is really a plus especially when you have a steering wheel, the immersion is crazy. Anyway, happy for the fans !
4 things: make sure it works with a logitech g920/29/293, and could more specific tuning such as engine management, and high/low speed damping, make sure it runs smoothly on an x-box one, even if that means that you limit the graphics, and split screen multiplayer.
I want to see details used in other franchises in the past. If I change the exhaust, it has a different exhaust. If I do weight reduction, it removes interior. Also, bring back Toyota and Japanese tracks like Tsukuba, Fuji, and Motegi. I also want to see more street cars. It's more fun to build up a street car for the track.
@Heavy-ang-patay This is Motorsport, not Horizon. FM7 had some Toyotas, but they were all purpose-built track vehicles from 3rd parties and not actually from Toyota.
imo people love to drive supercars and things they can aspire to or see on the road. I don't know why there is such a focus on these soulless race cars
I might be the only one but I’ve always thought a few more pivotal cars were always missing from the game. For example the first generations of the Ford Taurus SHO, the 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 limited ( the grandfather of all fast SUVs) Mercedes’ and BMW wagons/estates. Hoping to see them soon in game.
things I want to know in the next update: wheel support- any innovations here? are you guys going to try to compete his ACC level of car physics and detail? Single player- a more in depth look at what we are getting Online- are you guys adopting the old motorsport models? or are you going to try something new here release date- its already February guys, we need a specific date if you are serious about this year
I'm just nosalgic but nothing beats the time when I played Gran Turismo on Playstation back in the 90's whn like 6 years old. I loved the slow progression system and my dad always smiled when choosing new tires or upgrading the engine to get more horsepower. It felt like if we just did that next race we might be able to upgrade something on our beloved Lancer Evo :D I hope Forza will be able to make me wanna progress like this again.
@Riccin Frickinbono I mean that’s only the model for every game company out there right now? Bethesda remakes, cod is a rerelease every year with maybe a different era attached to it. Gran Turismo follows the same method. No matter where you go as long as the gaming industry is making lining pockets then the foundation isn’t going to change. You want to see real change? stop buying games lmao
"We copy and pasted the same the stuff from all the other games and it look a little cooler to save money" doesn't sound as good from a marketing perspective.
I love how half the comment section wants the game to be heavenly and perfect day one. They want the game to have no bugs and wants everything to be pretty and perfect with no updates or anything 😂
I feel like the Forza Motorsport title has been neglected a little in favour of Horizon and it's nice to see a new game is in the works. I have a lot of love for the Motorsport series and I cannot wait for this.
I was so addicted to Forza 1 and Forza 2, there was such a sense of progression, you get invested in your cars, and earning the money to upgrade them slowly, it was so satisfying. I don't want to just be given a GT3 RSR Race car after my first race, It's so meaningless and I lose all investment in the game. And I feel like that's been the problem since forza 3.
i hope the game feels good on wheel and pedal setups with a really good online competitive mode. its something that horizon lacks, motorsport has the perfect opportunity to make that happen. then Forza will have both competitive and casual racing games with loyal fanbases
Forza Motorsports have been my go to racing games since the 360. I was thrilled when I could start playing them on my PC. I wont buy another Forza game until the PC version has some kind of VR support, be it official or through mods.
Forza motorsport needs a story mode where you come from like a family of racing and you grow up watching your dad race and you start out by racing in high school or something like that and you have to work for new cars and upgrade your garage and workshop, earn sponsorships and stuff like that.
I'm fully stoked for this game to come out but my only issue is the the wings it's been years since we got a new update on the wing changing just that and making it a new nice design will definitely bring more people into the game the game is fantastic visually but the small but big attention to details is the game changer so many people have asked for the change and we're giving the creator our feedback to know what's needed to make a good game to a perfect game the small things back from Forza motorsport 2 where is has things present games don't have but I all in favor Microsoft just please change the customizing kits from bumpers to rims and wings we will still pay for it but please
The looks and sounds of this game i have no doubt in but the by far most important thing in my opinion is the car physics and the feedback you get through your wheel. Hope you put in even more time into these things than the graphics
@pluggotic FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 maybe gonna do EXACTLY the same like Nijigasaki High School Idol Club do on their 2nd anime season. Dont forget that their 2nd anime season also a BIG generational leap.
in carrer mode could be possible change the number of laps ? i think would be more fun to race against AI becouse wont be needing play too agressive to win. i play forza mortorsport 7 and i feel the need of more laps to win clean against pro/unbeateable difficult. also i like the idea of having the possibility of running every event (circuit) as a endurace event.
What I actually miss the most are various exhaust tips. If I'm putting a V engine in an R engine car, I'd like to have one exhaust pipe per side and not the shoddy stock straw. The same with the 2nd gen camaros..so shitty tailpipes. I think such possibilities would be something to measure the real detail work. And a very fundamental question: will there be TOYOTA? In this context, other cars would be desirable. It's nice that I've been able to drive the same Dodge Challenger with the same rims since the first GT part in 1997, but it would be nice to try something new in the car selection. When I hear the word toyota, I think of the (very American) toyota camry of the early 2000s, they are conservative, no question, but just like the Ford taurus of the time, they were sold in large numbers and that also means they were very popular , are often in front of the door and it would be nice if you could tune "your" car, for which IRL you might not have the money. There are still so many ideas that I'm missing, such as completely different shifting behavior with automatic transmissions, instead of simply shifting, at RPM max, because the transmissions don't shift like that either. Then there would still be a possibility of used cars, which are bumpy to drive with flat tires and which are only gradually completed with spare parts because they may be rare cars. Rare does not necessarily have to be called "Bugatti Power", but so that you can put a little more love into your cars. The "mod system" before the start of the race is also pretty "Meeehhh". Or that some cars are thrown at you after the races that you never drive anyway, but don't need to sell them because there's simply no money for them, even though they're "supercars". It's just the motivational carrot that you get shoved in your face, but somehow "love" isn't there. There were also oil changes and a car wash. Both could affect the driving performance, or just be fun. In FM7 I also miss a concrete performance overview, because with some cars I had to search a long time before I could find out whether it was an FWD or RWD or even AWD, R4; V6; V8....that reminds me, was there actually a significant 5Zyl._Sound? Furthermore, ALL cars have the highest performance just before the RPM limiter, while the performance diagram says that the peak performance is 2000RPM earlier and then drops again... And the HUD, there is also so much need for improvement, why do RPM meters and speedometers always have to be at the bottom right when viewed from the outside, in the middle would be much nicer. So please fully customizable HUD. that should have been almost everything.
From ground up, some upper management at turn 10 must really love these words. Jokes aside, please develop a playable and rewarding progress system. People really don’t mind grinding as long as it’s fun.
Y’all need to add more more lightweight racing wheels like more variety to the weld wheels maybe add forgestars,etc on the upcoming games and maybe more cars that the people would like and diversity on maybe adding more trucks like in the older forzas but keep up the good work
100% I was like bet you they using the same old junk styling as first forza and then that rear bumper and front bomex bumper on the mx5 comes up whilst talking about styling and I thought. Fml really guys!? Nothing new just copy and paste again????
M'aiq wants to make private Multi-class lobbies with friends and AI, a feature that was last seen in FM6. This one also wants to play "Cat and Mouse". M'aiq would as well like to play "Virus Tag" on tracks instead of arenas, which were both last seen in FM4. If FM8 lacks these features, M'aiq will leave it at the store, like he should've done to FM7.
Hope for the career mode there is now a qualifying stage that gets you the starting position in the race instead of just dealing with what the game gives you
I want this to feel as good as the first Motorsport games felt! I want to grind in a game like this. As much as I love the Horizon series, I hate being able to own 10 supercars within my first 2 hours of gameplay! I want to be grinding away in a D class car, slowly upgrading it and working to get that faster car that I'll need for the next championship! I'm glad to hear about the focused single player experience, and I hope it lives up to it! Can't wait!
@VancouverCanucksRock Oh come on, I just know you've only played it at launch and scrapped it afterwards. It's easy to get cars now. Also, you can say the same with this trailer. You like being manipulated by visuals.
gt7 does a decent job but i hope it has actual single player modes that goes through different historical races like gt7 and decent AI. Not just cars that knock you off the road on purpose.
the game will look like, we know it! I wish the list of tracks was as big as possible, so that the best Misano, Nurburgring would not be missing ... the biggest downside of the intermediate part was the time measurements, looking at the competition there are at least tables of the best runs, I missed it terribly in 7
I'm hoping for more cosmetic things also like in nfs like removing bumpers or fenders and even the hood, maybe even different positions in the engine bay for if youre adding a turbo and stuff. also random ass bodykits that make make no sense in terms of racing.
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As much as I love the collector aspect in horizon, I really hope this has real progression. I want to earn my cars, get attached to them. I want to do a full championship in a shit box and slowly upgrade it
@LastWil All racing games seem to do this now where you start with a half decent car and then within a couple hours you have a 500 million £$€ garage. I miss the days of starting in a hatchback and working your way up to the Bugatti, Lambo and so on. You feel like you earned it then. This is why GT started to loose it's appeal when you could buy cars. Cos if you give players the option to buy cars for real money it takes away from those who earned it.
@LastWilit most likely won’t be on game pass for a long time
i want a formula 1 car off the bat
@LastWil Duuuuuuuude I forgot it will be on game pass day one 🤤
I kinda hate this take tbh. A lot of us just want to compete against one another with an unrestricted access to whatever cars we want. Since 15 years ago I've been collecting cars. Now I just want to race.
I hope they add in more realistic sim options like tire wear, gas weight, track temp, etc. looks really good so far.
i hope this "next gen" racing sim have a decent pit stop crew animations
@Apollo XV No it wouldn't. That's why you have difficulty options. Like traction control, abs, steering assist... So those who aren't that good can still perform well. Then those who want the more realistic experience can turn them off.
@Apollo XV isnt motosport a sim?
@Bob Bart sim changes are limited. hopefully they'll be more robust in the future.
@Apollo XV I don’t think I did, unless you’re suggesting that you are a professional race car driver (which to be fair I did imply that I doubt that you are), or that you don’t drive sims for fun. Just because you didn’t directly say something with the intention of discouraging the aforementioned groups doesn’t mean that the snobbery and disdain that you and those like you show towards FM and other “childish” games doesn’t have the same impact on them.
Would love to see 'Windshield Banner customization' as part of livery design options! It would really give the feeling that the cars that you modify belong on the race track. Minor I know, but not many games do this and most of the cars in real life series have this. The livery customisation in Forza games is already great, but for a motorsport focused entry into the series it would be right at home. Very low on the priority list I'm sure, but cool nonetheless.
yes!!! this is something i’ve wanted since motorsport 4, little detail that would make your custom touring cars feel a lot more real
Would love to see more engine upgrades made available as well as more in-depth tuning.
Engine Sound in this is the most realistic sound i have ever heard in a game
@MarquisDeSang Raceroom is an amazing game. It just sucks you gotta buy basically every car.
It sounds like RACE ROOM
i hope to hear a nice rotary sound with cat and decat or even bridgeport (wishful thinking tho)
Always a game I go back to. This looks insane. Please live up to the expectations
car-building focused single-player sounds great
@Alberto521 ooooh like the height/depth/width alterations? Yeah that sounds nice.
@EazyComeEazyGo what if they add sliders for aero like how Need For Speed Carbon had?
@SomeGuy97 you're right
@Gradient skill issue
They could just remaster motorsport 4 and it would be a better game than this will be
I’m super excited about this one right here Thank you so much to the people working so hard on this game & giving the players what they want
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Most anticipated game of the year for me. Hope the presentation and lobbies are on point just like the gameplay
Looks too much like FM7/FH5. Starfield looks much more interesting.
Me gusta todas las actualizaciones acerca del aspecto de imagen del juego, pero me gustaría que hubiera mas desarrollo en el aspecto de sensación al conducir, mejores aspectos en sensaciones de realidad en frenada y movimientos mas realistas en el auto.
This will be amazing! This looks great and I'm glad to see the progress!
Can't wait for the release....would be crazy if you could actually adjust level of boost you want on turbos,procharger,superchargers
This truly looks worth the wait.
@KiwiStyles bruh your never gonna get anything good if you dont have patience. How you gamers can vomplain about unfinished games but when a game takes more than 2 years to develop its too sliw pick which one you want because hood games arent gonna get any quicker to make
Until they ban you and you can't play it anymore
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If this game focuses on being a driving simulation as opposed to arcade racing, I commend Turn 10 Studios for its great endeavor in doing so.
@David Yeah, I don’t actually drive a car; I just have my chauffeur drive me around town in my Rolls Royce 😎. Lol. Jk. 🤣. But I still think Forza would make a fantastic racing simulator if they worked on the in-game physics.
For those who haven't driven a real car. This is not a sim. It's only saving feature is that it helps keep mouthy children off real sims.
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I love Forza Motorsport, always come back to play a couple of laps on the Nurburgring. Hopefully it is back and I hope they offer 120 fps in the near future.
They do. Just have to play on a good PC.
I'm definitely excited for this one. It's looking pretty awesome if you ask me!
I have been playing Forza since the beginning and have loved all of them but I hope they don’t shy away from the heart of Forza but make it the biggest baddest one yet. Hopefully there will be more engine combinations and swaps and some of the old cars like the country squire. Can’t wait to get it and play it.
I'm excited, wish list would be a high def version of Fundidora Park Raceway, Monterrey, Mexico. Indycar raced there, last time in 2004 i believe. And I want that "HPDE" feeling, FM1 kind of had that feeling when you would choose your region when starting and most tracks would be in that region for the first couple of times. Interior car customization, different brands for upgrades that have different specs (for example one exhaust weighs less than another but makes more peak HP, or another one has less peak HP but a flatter power line, or one has more torque vs HP) Different wing options would be sweet as well
In the first Forza Motorsport on the original Xbox if you hit or scrape the concrete wall, you can actually see the car’s paint color on the concrete wall itself. That was a really cool attention to detail for a racing game in that time. It will be great to see something like that in the newer games.
@TheForza Gamer Dude...Obviously sarcasm. Wow.
I still dont understand why the older games arent BC. They clearly have the ability to re up the licensing for those cars.
Fm2 was the one for me, god that was a good game I wasted hours as a kid 😂
everything about AAA gaming development is how much money they make not the quality.
@I.N.S.H. this gama looks like it will be very good . The horizon series is very fun to .
I'd like to see more about Forza's driving mechanic's realism factor as well as information around how car data is collected. How do you ensure each car behaves the same as it's real life counterpart?
@Zs Bacskai Bro go play mario kart then
@Rchey Snarfs In that case most are "simcade" It's hard to get every cars geometry all the way down to the motion ratios and how the suspension design as far as tie rods/control arms/angles and etc. But regardless just getting realistic car behaviors down is good. Meaning my race car in the game might have to be modded differently to achieve the results I want out of the car, but I would like those results to be able behave the same as real life. Makes for good practice.
They don't, this game is a simcade and not a simulator. They'll get authentic enough handling based on a vehicles weight distribution + downforce + grip.
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Make sure this game comes out perfectly fine just like the other guy said take your time but I’m really glad you guys are coming out with the new one. I’ve been waiting a long time for this can’t wait.
I cant wait for this game to come out. This is going to be an awesome Forza game to play.
Dude I really hope drifting is just as good as it was in Motorsport 7. The drift lobbies were incredible!
I have always been a huge fan of the forza series ever since I was introduced at forza Motorsport 3. But they should definitely add lil tweaks to the look of the game when inside the car like for example steering wheel rotation degree and also camera adjustment cause some cars have weird first person views compared to others.
I believe the graphics and sounds will be really good, like other forza games as usual. But I wonder why the dev never do a marketing scene where they talks about tyre physics, penalty system, pit stop, etc.. you know, something’s important in a ‘motorsport’ world..
They'll hype it all up and make the footage look awesome. But wait until the actual game comes out before you purchase it. Remember all the "in-game footage" of the pit crews in FM6 but there wasn't a single person on the track in the pits? I love the series but they have a habit of deceptive and untruthful marketing.
@HawfHuman because it’s a decently cool thing that will add to racing
@ExoticTE77 I know they can't make something as elaborate as BeamNG or Wreckfest, but if they can't really do anything then why spend so much time talking about it and why try to make it seem as if it's some big new revelation
@HawfHuman they literally cannot make a realistic damage model because of licensing. The way they describe it is scratches exactly how they would appear based on what you bump and where which is cool considering many companies that would flip out if they saw their car damaged
Well done Turn 10. This looks amazing!!
I'm really stoked to play the new Forza game, one thing I think they should add is the odometer where the speed tachometer, just to see how much you've driven each car.
That's in forza 7 already
Give us solid support for all the common and DD wheels out there and people are going to love this. The community is thirsty for a truly new sim!
Esse vai ser o melhor Forza de todos os tempos ❤️
Told myself I was done buying video games, but this is incredible. It seems like something an “adult” would play which makes me feel less guilty for wanting it so bad.
@Blue Bandit lol well I downloaded lawn mowing simulator and if adults really play that then there is a problem
I take it you havent heard of simulators? Thats what us adults play
My biggest concern about this trailer is that you guys spent more time talking about how realistic your paint is, than talking about any gameplay-relevant aspects such as game modes or how the progression is gonna work. Those things are all pretty cool, especially the new sounds which are a long overdue thing imo, but literally all I know about this game right now, is that it's pretty to look at. I'm fairly sure players will be more busy thinking about how well your cars drive, how fun it is to progress in your career, get new cars, upgrade them, etc, rather than closely inspecting your multi layered car paint.
It’s the same old thing under the new coat of paint, it has been like this ever since 2015. If they got anything new, they would not hold it back like this.
@Kyle Schack then you hadn’t played horizon.
And he forgot to talk if the wheel will turn more than 90 degrees on cockpit view.
@Azali No... Forza was never built or designed to be a sim. It's always been designed as the mid between a "Need for Speed" and a Sim... Basically "Realistic" but not alienating. Not trying to be that guy but there are plenty of Sims out there for those that want it.... Forza is not a Sim, and never will be.
@Vulture Damage modeling is actually limited by licensing agreements... Dead serious. Licensing cars in games doesn't allow for "excessive" damages. That's why they went so heavy on dirt and cosmetic damages...
looks absolutely stunning 🤩
Looking forward to getting this up and running on my sim rig. Fingers crossed that VR or triple screen support is included on the PC version.
lol
Looks incredible... really excited for this one, take my money already
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Badass! Gonna like watching SuperGT rip this around 🤙🏼🔥
We're building hype for this game, from the ground up.
Watch out that’s what happened with cyberpunk
@Area11Sakai found the polyphony employee!
@GeoffPeterson I can't wait to see the new Forza vs GR7.
Same thang same thang.
@Area11Sakai tosser
I'm curious about turbo flutter when changing your air intakes if noise will change . Also if you spent out and don't hold the clutch in will the car kill. Last thing will the g920 be compatible with lsb and rsb button mapping?
LETS GOOO! 🔥They are really putting in the work for this game. Can’t wait to see it run on my Series X.
When talking about detail, I’m a man of detail and the things that I like to see is the cars features , such as changing the color of the interior, upgrades for sure is a big item to execute , we wanna see the parts change on the car as you upgrade , bigger turbos , aftermarket supercharger ,intercooler being present especially when you upgrading a N/A car , I wanna see these the parts I buy , new exhaust tips or mufflers …….also the cars crashes on the Forza franchise has always seemed arcade which kinda singles itself away from the simulation of the game let’s seem the cars actually roll and total out or the damages actually look real wherever the gets hit at …I think you get what I’m saying here
I'm very excited and I can't wait to play this game, it looks amazing
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I hope there's more than 1 wing option. It's not hard to add a low, mid, and high height options with different wing tips
@GBalao888 exactly. Gt7 wings are so good
Instead of the hideous traditional Forza wing, they should take some inspiration from GT7 with custom wings where you can change the stand, support and side blades.
Only thing that bugged me is the fact that we are still using the same Forza aero that we've been using since what Forza Motorsport 5? Other than that everything else looks incredible
God i love this community
@El Loco copy and paste from other games? hahaaha but it was literally Forza Horizon that redefined the genre, before Horizon we only had Need For Speed and simulators 🤣🤦♂️
@x808drifter bro the first fm i played was fm2. those were the golden days. FM4 is the lastforza that i actually finish. The sense of progression, the obvious attention to the cars, you could feel the developers actually love cars.
If T10 really did build a new game "from the ground up" they wouldn't be featuring their most hated feature, the ugliest wing in gaming history, which is forced on players to have decent car builds. This forza will be the same rehash as always. And yes I've played every FM. I'm a fan. I'm an OG. That's why I'm disappointed as usual.
@Steve Kong Haven't been here long have you. Us OG's have been disappointed since FM4 on the 360.
I wonder how the wheel setups will work. Horizon destroyed my taste for having a wheel so I’m hoping this is better or at least more tunable
And hopefully the car customization is better as well. With more body kits, wheels, spoilers, be able to change exhausts and mufflers, more drift cars and drift tracks this time
I'm looking forward to this game big time! Think it's time to invest in the steering wheel setup properly.
@David always great to get feed back from people who have a steering wheel setup or have tried game's.
I have a mid-level Thrustmaster wheel/pedals. It's wasted on this game ($1500 with load cell). The poor physics engine makes for a childish waste of time, and money. There's far better titles to choose from. Even Nascar2003 offers a much more realistic drive--it's free and there's no constant 'attitude' from admin..
I really hope the vinyl editor gets fixed with most vehicles at least! I like to make my own personal race car liveries and its frustrating when you apply vinyl to the hood/roof and yet it falls off onto the fender, bumper, or the quarter panels. Other than that the gameplay looks fun!! Looking forward to more engaging accidents let's gooo!!👉🤯👈
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Sounds fantastic. What will the in-game monetisation look like, will cars (as opposed to cosmetics) be able to be unlocked through an in-game currency mechanic that is tied to real world purchases or will that be purely game placed or a mixture of both?
Who knows, but Forza hasn't had any microtransactions since Forza Horizon 3, so it's likely that it will continue. Of course, they will still charge for the same things as VIP membership and car packs, just like before.
One thing that I’m still hoping for that not a lot of people for some reason talk about, is the steering wheel being able to turn more than 90 degrees, no Forza game has ever had any sort of steering animation past 90 degrees, Im hoping we might see this possibly in the new Motorsport.
@attack helicopter 🤌🏻🤌🏻
@natedog796 lol I have content manager only because of forza 🤣
@VerticalStrafes????????
@Lwazi Luvuyo what??? We have games that keep us very satisfied. Like assetto corsa, asseto competizione, rfactor 2, Ams2, project cars 2, dirt 2. Awesomes video games. Forza is Just like granturismo or NFS
@EverythingArsenal - yes, look at the steering wheel
The cars look HUGE on track!
I hope they get more contracts this time around. Having cars that I love not in the next game is something that disappoints me every year, and I'm not the only one.
I'd also like to see them add some more realistic cockpit view showing the car lean
The track racing looks similar to current. Interested to see how this compares to iRacing as far as car feel. I wish they could play that sim and use that. I feel however it will be another arcade game.
I remember how realistic Forza Motorsport 6 was in 2015, I can't wait for this!
A lot of talk about the tech behind the graphics and audio, but I wished we'd get more of a breakdown on the tech behind the driving and how handling, and info and stuff like the pit lane.
The physics are what's most important to me.
@Pug Rcz Gran Turismo only had one issues with one game so far Forza Motorsport is three in a row for broken games
@Criminal Mindz something tells me you did not play Forza Motorsport 7 for the first like 3 years of the game being out because nothing worked everything crashed FM7 was the start of shitty racing games because unfortunately we haven't got anything good since either if it's sim or arcade
@Darkside 20B sure, thing... also nothing wrong with servers for me never has been seems like a u issue or horizon
@Criminal Mindz so how about them Forza Motorsport 7 servers
As a sim racer who prefers titles like Assetto Corsa, i have to say, even I'm excited to try out this excellent looking game 👌
Looks very impressive, feels next gen
Can’t wait to play this! Hopefully the nascar expansion still exists!
3 and 4 were my favorite by miles. The carlist was great. I like things I can afford, no interest in the latest super car.
For all the progress they've made with some of the new things added to this game. Am I the only one who think that track commentators may be the best? like are we talking announcers narrating the race? cuz if so I've been waiting for that in a race game for so long lol
If they can deliver even 90% of what they have mentioned in this trailer then this game is going to be awesome. Visually it looks stunning so far.
@ShanyeB YT when you drink it, it's half empty, if you fill it halfway, it's half full. It's common sense.
Shanye the Simp.
@TacticalFallout I'm just a glass half full kind of person bro. I'd rather be optimistic about nothing than pessimistic about everything.
@TacticalFallout if i had 0,0000000000000001% of space, I would have the solar system! That's quite a lot, no?
90% of nothing is still nothing dude. They havent told us anything other than the graphics. Plus all the info we did get is already in FM7 and FH5. So they've told us essentially nothing.
Wish they’d add a garage and walk around effect etc like they did in driver ahaha would be sick
Car building focused singleplayer career? That sounds very nice! 😁
The drift lobbies were incredible
It's been a long time since I've been able to touch a Forza apart from the Forza Horizon, because Forza doesn't have in mind to become an icon of sim racing (what I'm looking for), the game is much too arcade. I plan to stay with Assetto Corsa Competizione, Automobilista etc. This is real racing and the possibility to play in VR is really a plus especially when you have a steering wheel, the immersion is crazy. Anyway, happy for the fans !
4 things: make sure it works with a logitech g920/29/293, and could more specific tuning such as engine management, and high/low speed damping, make sure it runs smoothly on an x-box one, even if that means that you limit the graphics, and split screen multiplayer.
I want to see details used in other franchises in the past. If I change the exhaust, it has a different exhaust. If I do weight reduction, it removes interior. Also, bring back Toyota and Japanese tracks like Tsukuba, Fuji, and Motegi. I also want to see more street cars. It's more fun to build up a street car for the track.
@DanteEightSix Still Forza. You need not worry about Toyota. They'll appear.
@Heavy-ang-patay This is Motorsport, not Horizon. FM7 had some Toyotas, but they were all purpose-built track vehicles from 3rd parties and not actually from Toyota.
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imo people love to drive supercars and things they can aspire to or see on the road. I don't know why there is such a focus on these soulless race cars
looking forward to trying the driving in this,,,, needs to be considerably better than fm7 if its gonna be worth it imo
Would love to have the new gen of Aussie Supercars!
I might be the only one but I’ve always thought a few more pivotal cars were always missing from the game. For example the first generations of the Ford Taurus SHO, the 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 limited ( the grandfather of all fast SUVs) Mercedes’ and BMW wagons/estates. Hoping to see them soon in game.
things I want to know in the next update: wheel support- any innovations here? are you guys going to try to compete his ACC level of car physics and detail? Single player- a more in depth look at what we are getting Online- are you guys adopting the old motorsport models? or are you going to try something new here release date- its already February guys, we need a specific date if you are serious about this year
I'm just nosalgic but nothing beats the time when I played Gran Turismo on Playstation back in the 90's whn like 6 years old. I loved the slow progression system and my dad always smiled when choosing new tires or upgrading the engine to get more horsepower. It felt like if we just did that next race we might be able to upgrade something on our beloved Lancer Evo :D I hope Forza will be able to make me wanna progress like this again.
I think "built from the ground up" is going to turn out to mean something totally different to T10 than it does to us.
@Riccin Frickinbono I mean that’s only the model for every game company out there right now? Bethesda remakes, cod is a rerelease every year with maybe a different era attached to it. Gran Turismo follows the same method. No matter where you go as long as the gaming industry is making lining pockets then the foundation isn’t going to change. You want to see real change? stop buying games lmao
"We copy and pasted the same the stuff from all the other games and it look a little cooler to save money" doesn't sound as good from a marketing perspective.
I love how half the comment section wants the game to be heavenly and perfect day one. They want the game to have no bugs and wants everything to be pretty and perfect with no updates or anything 😂
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@Damian S hope its not a terrible take.
I feel like the Forza Motorsport title has been neglected a little in favour of Horizon and it's nice to see a new game is in the works. I have a lot of love for the Motorsport series and I cannot wait for this.
I hope this time we will see a better pit management and actual crew pit animations.
I was so addicted to Forza 1 and Forza 2, there was such a sense of progression, you get invested in your cars, and earning the money to upgrade them slowly, it was so satisfying. I don't want to just be given a GT3 RSR Race car after my first race, It's so meaningless and I lose all investment in the game. And I feel like that's been the problem since forza 3.
Hopefully fully customizable racecar suits with our own graphics
I wonder what they'll do for the drift community on this one.
i hope the game feels good on wheel and pedal setups with a really good online competitive mode. its something that horizon lacks, motorsport has the perfect opportunity to make that happen. then Forza will have both competitive and casual racing games with loyal fanbases
@Piston Broke AMS2 over Raceroom !!
@Piston Broke No pc and I don't play video games enough to justify buying one :/
@Jack Armstrong yeah you are correct, all have their place. Just from my experience with all these games i made those recommendations.
@Nordic watch addict ACC and Iracing lack the car diversity though. And many Forza players do not have access to a PC
@DoWorkNP 'Acc is fun but im bored to death of gt3 lol....' - Raceroom and AMS2 👍
The Forza Team is Amazing. Cant wait to see more. 💥🤩🤩🤩
Looks awesome! 😍
Forza Motorsports have been my go to racing games since the 360. I was thrilled when I could start playing them on my PC. I wont buy another Forza game until the PC version has some kind of VR support, be it official or through mods.
Forza motorsport needs a story mode where you come from like a family of racing and you grow up watching your dad race and you start out by racing in high school or something like that and you have to work for new cars and upgrade your garage and workshop, earn sponsorships and stuff like that.
I'm fully stoked for this game to come out but my only issue is the the wings it's been years since we got a new update on the wing changing just that and making it a new nice design will definitely bring more people into the game the game is fantastic visually but the small but big attention to details is the game changer so many people have asked for the change and we're giving the creator our feedback to know what's needed to make a good game to a perfect game the small things back from Forza motorsport 2 where is has things present games don't have but I all in favor Microsoft just please change the customizing kits from bumpers to rims and wings we will still pay for it but please
The looks and sounds of this game i have no doubt in but the by far most important thing in my opinion is the car physics and the feedback you get through your wheel. Hope you put in even more time into these things than the graphics
@Purwanti Allan pretty much yeah
@Purwanti Allan I love that you expect me to know that obscure pervy stuff🤣
@Alden Mahoney more like Arcade Hybrided game like PROJECT CARS 3 and Daytona USA 2.
@pluggotic FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 maybe gonna do EXACTLY the same like Nijigasaki High School Idol Club do on their 2nd anime season. Dont forget that their 2nd anime season also a BIG generational leap.
@Fisken FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 gonna get 100 on Metacritic.
That means if you’re drifting and you hit like another tire mark you’re gonna catch more traction or something that sounds so cool
in carrer mode could be possible change the number of laps ? i think would be more fun to race against AI becouse wont be needing play too agressive to win. i play forza mortorsport 7 and i feel the need of more laps to win clean against pro/unbeateable difficult. also i like the idea of having the possibility of running every event (circuit) as a endurace event.
What I actually miss the most are various exhaust tips. If I'm putting a V engine in an R engine car, I'd like to have one exhaust pipe per side and not the shoddy stock straw. The same with the 2nd gen camaros..so shitty tailpipes. I think such possibilities would be something to measure the real detail work. And a very fundamental question: will there be TOYOTA? In this context, other cars would be desirable. It's nice that I've been able to drive the same Dodge Challenger with the same rims since the first GT part in 1997, but it would be nice to try something new in the car selection. When I hear the word toyota, I think of the (very American) toyota camry of the early 2000s, they are conservative, no question, but just like the Ford taurus of the time, they were sold in large numbers and that also means they were very popular , are often in front of the door and it would be nice if you could tune "your" car, for which IRL you might not have the money. There are still so many ideas that I'm missing, such as completely different shifting behavior with automatic transmissions, instead of simply shifting, at RPM max, because the transmissions don't shift like that either. Then there would still be a possibility of used cars, which are bumpy to drive with flat tires and which are only gradually completed with spare parts because they may be rare cars. Rare does not necessarily have to be called "Bugatti Power", but so that you can put a little more love into your cars. The "mod system" before the start of the race is also pretty "Meeehhh". Or that some cars are thrown at you after the races that you never drive anyway, but don't need to sell them because there's simply no money for them, even though they're "supercars". It's just the motivational carrot that you get shoved in your face, but somehow "love" isn't there. There were also oil changes and a car wash. Both could affect the driving performance, or just be fun. In FM7 I also miss a concrete performance overview, because with some cars I had to search a long time before I could find out whether it was an FWD or RWD or even AWD, R4; V6; V8....that reminds me, was there actually a significant 5Zyl._Sound? Furthermore, ALL cars have the highest performance just before the RPM limiter, while the performance diagram says that the peak performance is 2000RPM earlier and then drops again... And the HUD, there is also so much need for improvement, why do RPM meters and speedometers always have to be at the bottom right when viewed from the outside, in the middle would be much nicer. So please fully customizable HUD. that should have been almost everything.
From ground up, some upper management at turn 10 must really love these words. Jokes aside, please develop a playable and rewarding progress system. People really don’t mind grinding as long as it’s fun.
Y’all need to add more more lightweight racing wheels like more variety to the weld wheels maybe add forgestars,etc on the upcoming games and maybe more cars that the people would like and diversity on maybe adding more trucks like in the older forzas but keep up the good work
would love to see more customable body kits not the same back wing we've been seeing for the last 10+ years
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100% I was like bet you they using the same old junk styling as first forza and then that rear bumper and front bomex bumper on the mx5 comes up whilst talking about styling and I thought. Fml really guys!? Nothing new just copy and paste again????
just saw the wing too. Seems there is no "new" stuff. just nicer grafics
They need voltex wings lmao
Built from the ground up, out of old models lol
M'aiq wants to make private Multi-class lobbies with friends and AI, a feature that was last seen in FM6. This one also wants to play "Cat and Mouse". M'aiq would as well like to play "Virus Tag" on tracks instead of arenas, which were both last seen in FM4. If FM8 lacks these features, M'aiq will leave it at the store, like he should've done to FM7.
After collecting all of the fh5 cars this is going to give a new tough challenge 🤯
I hope someday we have true binaural audio. And many many free roam tracks with traffic.
Hope for the career mode there is now a qualifying stage that gets you the starting position in the race instead of just dealing with what the game gives you
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I need a full sim forza game. The graphics are so good
I want this to feel as good as the first Motorsport games felt! I want to grind in a game like this. As much as I love the Horizon series, I hate being able to own 10 supercars within my first 2 hours of gameplay! I want to be grinding away in a D class car, slowly upgrading it and working to get that faster car that I'll need for the next championship! I'm glad to hear about the focused single player experience, and I hope it lives up to it! Can't wait!
@Nick Steinmetz But the AI in GT7 isn't that great I'm afraid.
@VancouverCanucksRock Oh come on, I just know you've only played it at launch and scrapped it afterwards. It's easy to get cars now. Also, you can say the same with this trailer. You like being manipulated by visuals.
@Nick Steinmetz I don't think you actually played that BS gt7.....Or, you like being manipulated/played....
Top tip: just go replay the old games because I'm sure it's all going to be the same stuff with this game. Old games > new games.
gt7 does a decent job but i hope it has actual single player modes that goes through different historical races like gt7 and decent AI. Not just cars that knock you off the road on purpose.
the game will look like, we know it! I wish the list of tracks was as big as possible, so that the best Misano, Nurburgring would not be missing ... the biggest downside of the intermediate part was the time measurements, looking at the competition there are at least tables of the best runs, I missed it terribly in 7
I'm hoping for more cosmetic things also like in nfs like removing bumpers or fenders and even the hood, maybe even different positions in the engine bay for if youre adding a turbo and stuff. also random ass bodykits that make make no sense in terms of racing.
So ready for a new Traditional forza game. Ready to be back on Race tracks