Game of Thrones Season 8 EP6 (The Iron Throne) Review, Critiques, Analysis

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  • Still hurts to this day :(

  • Game of Thrones morphed into Throne Wars.

  • Disrespectful to the fans. Fuck all the way off. They don't owe us anything.

  • ...Though petitions won't amount to anything, perhaps alternatives are possible... ....*sense Game of Thrones: The Rise of the Fan Vids*

  • I think the they don't get to choose line is the writers talking to the fans. I watch all the you tubers on this show and I've heard many far betting endings than this. I've sure George rr will not be able to watch this season again I know I won't I can't its so much fucking cringes and let downs

  • Shite. Thank fuck for the books I'll never watch the last 2 seasons again

  • I don’t really feel like Jon got a happy ending though like what is he even guarding at this point with the nights watch

  • Im liking this before I even watch it. I already know you’re are gonna thoughtfully tear this show (more its writers) the new asshole it so desperately needs. With more care than those dimwit hollywood show runners I’d add. It’s really the only way to fully expel the fetid excrement the “writers” so lovingly filled this aborted homunculus with and forced hbo to lock in our memories. You’re doing the lords work.

    • Guess I was wrong 😅 Still enjoyed it.You already took ‘em to task anyway, and it was all very cathartic. Thanks.

  • Dany's tragedy is the tragedy of a ruler. She fixed the different problems of the cities she's been through. Everywhere she went she left a better world than she found and learned from her mistakes. In the end, she is cornered by Cersei into eliminating her vulnerability / weakness. And her weakness was Mercy for the innocent. A ruler can't afford her/his weakness in plain sight. She/he will be instantly attacked with that weapon. That is why she burns the innocent AFTER the war was won! No one would have ever used the innocent as a weapon ever again and no innocent would have ever suffered. That is the tragedy of a ruler. Sacrifice. A ruler must sacrifice the good of a few for the good of the many. That is the Dany story we are being told. I still think that Dany's speech is being shown through the eyes and ears of Tyrion, who's Valyrian is rubbish and misreads the situation...again. This leads him to quit, to think he was on death row - except he was not - that is why he is alive later in the episode, which leads him to manipulate Jon to kill Daenerys. All because of a huge misunderstanding. It would not be the first misunderstanding...see Rhaegar and Lyanna. Tyrion made a mess in Meereen, in his idealism that a conflict can be stopped. Conflicts can be won or lost, never stopped. Varys made a mess in finding the ideal ruler, a ruler with no flaws - for the good of the realm. There is no such thing! The good for some is the bad for others. Jon made a mess because of his honor, but also sacrificed his vows/his life for the life of his people! - Again the sacrifice theme. Dany was the only one who understood that. And Jon defended her because he was in a similar position. He never intended to kill Dany, but got manipulated by the idiots around. He instantly regrets doing it: "it doesn't feel right". And Tyrion doesn't answer like Arya does to Sansa in S07E07 "you did the right thing", after just a few weeks, Dany was no longer the new NK and the biggest threat to the people. "Ask me again in 10 years" means a huge regret! It means that what Jon did was wrong and he knows it. Jon lives now in agony that he did the wrong thing and even being free ("I'm tired of fighting") and the arrival of Spring can't put a smile on his face.

  • The failure of Benihof and Weiscz to realize a show that did credit to GRRM's novels had a great side effect! Many talented people decided to accept the challenge to come up with better story, and some of them did an excellent job. I loved the creativity shown by fan fiction writers, While D & D seemed to go through the motions and count on special effects together with murder and mahem to to tell GRRM's story.

  • I think it’s great that all the little princess Are crying Poor princess went for Mad queen too bad she was always going full mad queen

  • Dany going "mad" (which is a vague description) is already being set up, the denigration she felt in the books as she rode Drogon in last one, her delusion she's fireproof there (something shared by her father btw: first sign), and her resolution to embrace fire and blood, along with surrounded with the wrong people (without counting Barristan). Her father didn't snap into full pyromaniac until the Defiance, so it's not as if this was since day 1 (iirc, he seemed actually decent first then got his decline until it spiraled down). The show kind of mess up to make her really fireproof, and whitewashing Tyrion and Jorah, and give her Evil Queen Cersei as "opponent" when she's obviously getting kicked in favor of Young Griff and Dorne. The vision of the dragon cheered by the crowd (Young Griff for sure) while she gets rejected would make her snap among other stuff. The show really really messed up by removing that character, she got "paranoid" of Jon 'I don't want it' Snow makes no sense because he along with Cersei took a plot that wasn't theirs. Bran as King was confirmed, btw. The ending with Jon and Bran make a lot of sense, looking at the past and the result of the other High Council before this one that crowned Aegon V which ended up with his cousin, Lord Bloodraven (another stuff the show ignored! Since he is Bran's mentor and the previous greenseer) banished to the Wall. Now Jon gets banished to the Wall by his king and cousin. It is a fitting ending.

  • My theory : Showrunners just fuck up saison 8. THE END

  • An abbreviated final season is something that happens to a cancelled tv show, not the most popular show in the world. HBO should have dished out even more money to tie this up correctly. It's been a few months now and this show has died away from the public lexicon. A goid ending would not let that happen.

  • Ok so I’m one of those asshole that everybody hates: I never liked the show all that much, and could not help but whine about what makes the books so, so, so much better. Yeah I get it, it’s annoying and I’m “that guy” but whatever. I still have only seen all of season 1 and several random episodes up until season 4. I stopped watching the show at all when I knew they were gonna pass the books in the timeline. Once that happened it was game over for me, I didn’t want the future books to be spoiled for me because of this damn show. Yet because it’s popularity and since the internet is a thing, it was pretty much impossible to avoid spoilers. I began to resent the show for this, and was slightly peeved that Martin was taking a decade between book releases (as if I’ve ever written a book though lol...) Now, I’m feeling slightly smug that the show went downhill to sharply in the last 2 seasons. Hopefully I can forget about the show now and enjoy the books free from it’s influence

  • When Tyrion walked off alone while King's Landing was still being sacked my friends and I looked at each other like, "Uh. He's still supposed to be smart, right?" Then he reached the underneath of the Red Keep before Jon Snow could make it to Danaerys and we were like, "Oh this isn't a serious episode okay."

  • TY for your review. I felt bad for the entire crew. it is not on them. Once showrunners cut GRRM source material down to certain storylines/arcs, they had no idea how to continue those characters once original book material ran out. I truly believe they knew they were out of their element (no original writing skill set) so time to wrap up the show and move on. Then the consequence, the S1-S4 great dialogue ( almost word from word from the books) turned into battle scenes/CGI effects (fan service) and script word count became less and less. Smart characters turned into idiots and went against everything we knew about them. After Hold the door episode, the magical/fantasy feel of the story peaked then disappeared. What was the point of the prophecies, wight walkers, children of the forest, and three eye raven? The story turned into subverting expectations which was, in the end, a ridiculous excuse for "we cannot write meaningful, cohesive dialogue" to continue good character arcs and great storytelling. Lord of the Rings rip-offs, the Mockingjay S8E6 CGI wingspan effect. I don't think D&D really cared about the show, fans, actors, any of it. The word Hubris comes to mind. Oh, yeah and D&D have submitted S8E6 for Emmy consideration for best writing and directing, LMFAO.

  • lol anybody noticed the city is rebuild in like 1 episode?

    • Not only that, but by whom. The biggest city in continent turned to ashes with all its people basically

  • I wanted to end with Bran turning to the camera with yellow eyes and laugh with evilness like in Michael Jackson Thriller... and then he would jump off the chair and dance with everybody

  • Much more crucial detail was left out than was included in this series finale. It makes for a very unsatisfactory re-watch.

  • Re-watching everything just seems unnecessary now. Because of the few terrible season's 5-8 and the final god-awful episode...Re-watching everything is now POINTLESS.

  • ExPecTATions SubVeRTeD

  • I don't buy what they did to Danaerys either. She turned on a dime for the most silly reasons. The show had shrunk in size to a handful of characters and so we're supposed to believe she's going to freak out because a couple of people aren't into her being the ruler............ ridiculous. It would have had to be the whole kingdom to make her decide that if they wouldn't love her, then "let it be fear then". Even with her turning (which I don't believe) the better ending was for Danaerys to live and kill Jon, Tyrion and then took on the other Starks. The ending as it currently stands is full of cheese apart from Danaerys dying.

  • Season 8 was D&D's attempt to make the Dorne plot line look good.

  • It would have been great if they showed her descending into madness in a couple of or a single episode...maybe they would have called it The Mad Queen episode...rather than just showing the outcomes of it... They should've shown all thoes times when she was not eating and slowly descending into madness...

    • @Suraj Singh In an episode you can't cover such plot. Madness is a disease that advances in a progressive way. It tooks years to someone to lose his mind. They should at least show in two or three episodes each season that something was not right with her. Well at least we agree that the ending sucks...

    • @Emilce Diaz yeah...but it was damn necessary...not half a seasons worth but atleast an episode...yes definitely yes

    • It wouln't be enought. Her descendant to madness should at least took half of a season or all a season.

  • They gave us a "rush job."

  • Finally, somebody understands that Bran's consciousness has been replaced with another one and that Bran doesn't exist anymore, just his body.

  • Statement I just add they use some of the materials from Feast of Crows and some of materials from the Dance of Dragons they into two parts. Which I thought was the WORST MISTAKE they did. Also cut the season in 6 episodes only.

  • Bran waurged into dany it’s obvioues

  • Dragon didn’t kill him because he knew Jon Jon killed dany because of what she did and the reason why( WHICH IS STILL BS ill point out) and knew that she died because of the iron thrones

  • „Hes a DRAGON why would he even care“ 💯

  • Finally! Someone finally makes a statement about how Bran is the one who caused the most murders in the entire series. Show Daenerys didn’t really kill those people, Bran did by doing nothing the whole season. Viserion and Rhaegal could be alive, many of the northmen, all of King’s Landing, etc,. He actually knew that Daenerys would save Jon who was capturing one of the others to convince Cersei (which he knew wouldn’t work), knew Viserion would die because of it with the Night King using him to destroy the wall, causing the battle to start earlier, Bran also knew that the negotiations with Cersei would fail, he knew Rhaegal would die “because Daenerys ‘forgot’ about the iron fleet”, and Missendei would die (who is only supposed to be, what, 13 at most?), and that Daenerys would burn King’s Landing, causing Jon to kill her which broke his heart (I think?), and that he would end up the ruler of Westeros... also, the last Three Eyed Raven lived for an extremely long time, so how long will Bran’s rule last? Will it ever end?

  • I still find it funny though, that even in the scene when Tyrion finds Jaime and Cersei, that Jaime doesn’t have a golden hand lol

  • Ugh if I hear one more time “the shot of Dany and dragon wing 😍😍” 🤮🤮it was straight out a Disney movie.

  • GOT will forever suck because of the Finale even tho I hope George will write a better ending to the Books but it'll not save the TV show since its dead now. Thanks D&D. And no I have not watch it. I am still will like the early seasons but that it sadly. It's like Seeing The Simpsons go downhill or Happy Days. Things like that happened.

  • Thank you for this review! I decided not to watch EP6. Now I have no reason to.

  • how you get so many views this video sucks

  • I have the first seven seasons on DVD and BluRay, but won’t be buying the travesty that was season 8, when the writers butchered so many character arcs and rushed to finish. They completely screwed over the fans.

  • Did I miss the episode where Daenerys descended into madness? Last time I saw her she was helping Jon save the North and the next thing you know, Bam, she's the mad Queen. They did a good job writing the show, but the completely failed the last 2 episodes. The writers took the Daenerys fans and slapped us in our faces for loving a Character that was so obviously insane from the beginning. No, I'm not buying it. I love Game of Thrones and it's probably the greatest show I'll ever see, but Daenerys Stormborn Targareyen was a kind, warm and intriguing character from day 1. Daenerys will always, always be the Queen I would fight for from this day until my last day. Great video bro, I completely agree. 👍

  • You are absolutely right when you said it left you feeling Hallow. Like many others I was truly disappointed with the entire season .

  • Arya pretty much died IMO

  • I can't respect the show after the final season we got. It rendered everything meaningless for me. It was all for not. What is scope and scale without substance? Just stuff and things.

  • How are there so many Dothraki after they were wiped out charging the wights in Winterfell???

  • Bro chill with the damn ads

  • I like how just before the minute mark with the book series shown you can see Dune peaking out from behind the other books.

  • Actually if the petition reach 3 000 000 votes they have to redo it

  • I don't watch this show, but from everyone's response, it seems like Jon was the Aragorn of this show. So why didn't the writers treat him like it? He even had a destiny with a magical sword and right to the throne.

  • Games of thrones ending reminds me of the show Lost. All this hype and they just ran out of ideas and it ran flat. But I was laughing when they sent Jon back to the wall.

  • Ending was total bullshit ruined all the loyal years of siting in front of my tv on sun night just cant believe they rushed it so bad

  • You want to say the dirty things about this season after 04.00 😂

  • Tyrion sets up two trials by combat for himself and he doesn't even consider proposing it for Jon Snow.... I mean wouldn't it be great if the show ended with a Jon Snow-Grey worm combat trial? And why the fuck Grey Worm even survives? He is propably one of the dullest characters of the show....

  • You don’t get it. Dany was thinking Big leagues, while so many of you are playing Tee ball. It was about making a statement to the world. Her mercy will not be used as a weakness against her. When the entire world heard of what she did at Kings Landing they would obey out of fear and fall in line. Think: Tarkin Doctrine from Star Wars. However it’s not a Death Star it’s a Dragon. Dany actually understood what it would take to rule the entire world, and we ain’t talking sheep herders and peasants, she would have to go against Blood Mages, Necromancers, and the scariest shit in the darkest corners of the realm. Meanwhile you guys are all crying over one city. The Bloodstone Emperor gives zero fucks about a city, which is why he was able to control a Empire. Because people like him and Dany think on a global scale. As I said, it’s the Big Leagues. Top tier villains that make Cersei look like a little girl having a temper tantrum.

  • Episode 5 was supposed to make us hate “evil Dant”, but it just made me like Daenerys more than I already did. I was so done with the season and what they were doing with her character. She was risking her life and dragons in order to save the living, but proceeds to kill a million innocent people because she was angry/frustrated? How in the world was that foreshadowed? She always stood up for the common people-the abused, the helpless. I don’t mind her going “mad” at all. I would actually love to see it, but in order for it to work she had to hurt innocent people in season 7 or something, not snap on innocent people over halfway through the final season. She was basically a cartoon villain and it was so disrespectful to the character as well as the actress who portrayed her. Shame 🔔

  • I didn't watch the show--It takes a great show to make me devote an hour plus a week to watch. I'm delighted that so many people have dedicated so much creative energy to the rewrite the failures of Weiss and Benihof. On the whole the net effect will probably be positive.

  • No one seems to understand "Subverting Expectations" where the unexpected happens. GOT would have been even better had Tony Stark's Iron Man shown up and killed Cersei Lannister & Daenerys Targaryen. No one would expect that at all with masterful "Subverting Expectations". .... Also, Drogon realized Daenerys was killed by a knife, so he destroyed the army of knives disguised as a throne. .... /s

  • Episode 5 was the ending episode for me and the writers blew it at that point. The death of Daenerys had to be. The best part of S8 E6 was the Dragon "Drogon' who stoled the death scene and finality. The Destruction of the Iron Throne was also a fitting end. One more High point was the very end when the Kings consul was left scrabbling over more mundane but real governing issue that any leadership has to deal with, sewers, military, education so on and so forth.. I give a disappoint 5 to the this episode and a 4 to S8E5. The death of Cersei and Jaime a should have been at the hands of the "Hound", Jon Snow or Arya Stark or a combination of the Hound (Sandor Clegane) and Arya Stark.

  • I always imagined this season to end dramatic... Like when the '' Mighty '' undead army charged, they ran over everybody... EVERYBODY would be dead... no Clegane , NO Brienne... Tormund or Jaime... Daenerys would die and become undead queen... Then they would march and take over the whole Westeros and that LONG night and '' Winter '' they knocked me over the head with it for a decade would finally happen. But there will be a funny ending to it... like Jon being on the other side of the sea with Davos , got there only the Gods know how. And Jon is fishing and drinking Rum... and Davos stops by out of nowhere.... Davos - So... to make sure , this is kinda it right ? We lost Westeros to the Night King or am I dreaming wide awake ? Jon - Yeah ! The bad guys totally won... since we're gonna be here for awhile have a sip of Rum and try to fish our dinner. NO Cersei and her pirate boyfriend as final boss.... Bleeaah !

  • 3:30 I mean, that was her character the entire show? She's the psychopath, Arya is the sociopath, Sansa turned out somewhat decent I guess(?) They just dont know how to write women.

  • Oh, and also: the petition isn't stupid. No one expects a reproduction with other writers, least of all the people who started the petition. It is a message to HBO and to Dumb&Dumber that they suck and that the final season of their show was awful and an insult to the audience. Maybe they'll pay attention and not do this sort of thing again. How else are we to let them know that they suck? By making CS-tv videos that are watched by 31 000 people? It's too small for them to notice, and will get dismissed as fringe stuff they don't need to listen to. Millions of viewers demanding that they write the season over again with proper writers, though, they can not ignore. This was not the response HBO was hoping for, clearly. And they have noticed it. And, with respect, I doubt they have noticed your videos. At this point consumer activism is all we have left with entertainment in general. The producers have all the money and all the power. All we can do is scream loudly when they serve us shit. So that is what we need to do then. Anything else would be irresponsible.

  • The NK destroyed one castle, so obviously everything will continue exactly as before. No one south of Winterfell even saw so much as a single wight, lost no troops fighting the undead and their economies are perfectly intact. So why should anything change there? Except I guess because the idiotic script forces them to. No one at their stupid summit meeting would have supported Bran, or Sansa who had lost her army. If this had been written by GRRM, the Vale, the Iron Islands or Riverrun would have seized the opportunity to conquer the north from her. Dorn would have declared independence obviously, and possibly others. At least rather than being ruled by some wooden unknown in a wheelchair. Nor would everyone instantly have trusted Tyrion. It's all just such garbage, and it seems very obvious to me that nothing whatsoever had been thought through in any detail. Like just the few problems listed above. They forced everyone and everything towards a predetermined ending, and nothing made sense because they didn't build to any of it. Sansa was supposed to be queen, because STRONG WAMEN, despite having done essentially nothing since S5 to show that she was even qualified to rule. One scene they did when the foppish girl from S1-4 suddenly knew more about armor than the smiths of Winterfell. Unconvincing pandering, and now she's the bestest queen ever. Shit writing! But the biggest problem is that in ruining the antagonist like they did they made the entire story utterly meaningless. They wanted another Batmam moment for the cliche they turned Arya into and they needed to rush to the final boss, Cercei. So off with the NK's head, here! And as a consequence he turned out to be so puny that the entire story was rendered pointless. Shit happens, people suck, nothing changes, the end! That's the story of A Game of Thrones.

  • Drogon should have (killed or just taken) Jon Snow and taken him with him wherever he is going with Daenerys. Drogon would have never let Jon live or never let him be separated from Daenerys. Imo. Jon and Daenerys should have died together or lived together. Drogon taking off with Jon as well as Daenerys would have been EPIC. I honestly thought would end like that for Daenerys or Jon both or neither dying. I totally do not trust Bran as King. It IS NOT BRAN. That is clear. Giving the episode a 4 is very fair because the cinematography, the special effects, the costume, the acting, everything was wonderful but the writing. Even the actors made some of the worst It still didn't make sense and please please, please explain what was bittersweet and why it felt like pure bitter in my mouth We were lied to again. I didn't see anything bittersweet. I have given myself a few weeks to see if I can move on and forget this TV series and books that has been a huge part of my life for years. So I have a right to feel the way I feel. I dont need Sofie Turner telling me I'm disrespectful because I have the highest regard for Game of Thrones cast and ESPECIALLY the crew, everyone involved from makeup to weapons, cgi, wardrobes, from the people who cared for animals to the lady with the lunch cart on set. It was a monumental task. The Daenerys plot line, her great story was assinated. Mangled into a big hot mess. Jmo.

  • Can somebody please tell me how FUCKING BRON got on the kings small council? Like of all people, BRON, becomes the new MASTER OF COIN. The same guy who back in season 2 needed to have the concept of an interest rate explained to him. The same guy who just pointed a crossbow at Tyrion, broke his nose, threatened to murder him and his brother, and extorted them for yet another house, title and land. But yeah he's the new master of coin......okay......sure.....

  • This episode was a total disaster. Truly sad

  • I remember when you were starting out and learning how to do this. if anyone ever deserved to blow up big covering ASOIAF & GOT, it’s this channel! Excellent

  • I wish I was a real nerd.

  • I see you read my mind on Daenerys. This instant Hitler Daenerys burned me to the core

  • Bran said he does not want to become king. He only accepted for the good of the realm and to let Tyrion rule free from Tyrants.

  • The funny thing isn't even that she burned innocent people for seemingly no reason but in a moment of rage, then somehow just tell us this really bad excuse with a straight face, when it wasn't just innocent people she was setting on fire, she burned quite of few or her allies as well. Where your own men also shields for cersei?

  • It's not even about being rushed, the writing is just elementary bad that its almost unreal. I'm not a hollywood writer, but I'm a Game of Throne fan. Give me just one day, and I'll have a better writing than this piece of shit.

  • I can’t believe Bronn got a better ending than Dany. Cause he’s so righteous, right? 🙄

  • To me, it actually made a little sense for Drogon to spare Jon Snow & destroy the Iron Throne. Dragons are said to be incredibly intelligent creatures, even more so than humans. Drogon understood that it was Daenerys’s pursuit for the Iron Throne that resulted in her demise. Sure, Jon killed her, but he desperately did not want to. Drogon knew that power - the Iron Throne killed her; thus, he destroyed it.

  • Dragons in GoT are smarter then you think. I'm not sure the limit to a dragons intelligence. But it can feel daenerys feelings, and theres another theory about khal drogo being inside drogon as a spirit. He could have been furious that his love died for a stupid chair. So he incinerated it.

  • I feel like Bran sitting on the throne is like part of an explanation for The House Of The Worm by GRRM. Idk

  • Bring on the Dune videos!

  • Season 1 Littlefinger: "Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done since you climbed off your horse" Season 7 Littlefinger: "Lady Chancha plz take me back uwuwuwuwuwu"

  • I dont know why it needed a ending to wrap it up... It began in the middle of a story, where you had to catch up on what had happened and it was great, it felt like a real world. Why did it need a ending that tied everything up? It felt plastic, not fleshed out at all.

  • Epsiode 3 already left me dead inside and I was like yelp I will watch the rest although I don't care at all anymore... It is so sad and embarassing that the NK wasn't a threat til the end... In my opinion the fight against the NK and winter should have been combined with the fight for the Iron Throne... Not once in a while did I expected that they would get rid of the NK and the entire Army of the Dead three epidodes before then end... I mean, What the Fuck!? He was ALWAYS supposed to be the biggest and final enemy and antagonists... It proves that nor D&D neither all that dumb-dumb's who are really defending season eight ever understood what this series was all about for real! Gosh, I am still so upset... And all that people that are saying, "but the show's name Is Game of THRONES!" go f ***k yourselves!... The only reason why the show's name is GoT is because the Showrunners found it to be more catchy than "A Song of Ice and Fire" (! A title that definitely implies that the NK should somehow had been included in the FINAL episode!!!!)... That is the Only reason

  • There is a big diference betwen mad ,angry and evil...and daenerys was not evil not one glance of evil in her thru the last ten years she was passionate about her reclaiming her right as a queen but she was always repeating she doesnt want to be queen of ashes she always repeated she wont achive her goal on the lives of inocent ...her brother was evil her father was evil ...she was of kind and gentle heart with a burning warrior in her not evil...and in the end she did not go mad what everybody keeps repeating and justifing what she did saying she went mad is been shown in previous season she gonna go mad...well yes maybe killing people who inslaved inocent tried to kill her she was brutal to them but arya was brutal to people who hurt starks even more brutal then Daenerys doesnt mean arya was mad ..or she would turn mad...what im saying or trying to say daenerys in the end didnt go mad she went full on evil and there is no reasoning behind that because she is not really is stupid how they fcked her charachter ...but i dont like criticising just on the account how amazing thise people working on this have been how long and how they give 90 percent of their lives to this for the last ten years...i just hope in the future we get back to this story because im pretty sure Khaleesi is alive and pregnant with jon snow child ane how ever when ever i think we will see they didnt finish this story deliberately because george rr martin has something in stored for bran and the rest of thise beautiful charachters

  • Jon started out as a crow, then became a parrot. "RRRAAAWK! SHE'S YOUR QUEEN! *whistle * RRRAAAAWK! SHE'S YOUR QUEEN! *whistle*"

  • So is the Night king a Good guy? 9:00