Why Australia bottles up its air

čas přidán 29. 01. 2023
Every few months, when the wind's blowing in the right direction, a bottle of air is taken from Kennaook / Cape Grim, at the northern tip of Tasmania, and saved for science. Here's how and why. ▪ More about the Cape Grim Air Archive: research.csiro.au/acc/capabil...

There was no way to put this in the main video, but I have to point to some of the bleak history of Kennaook / Cape Grim, and the massacre that happened there: www.ourtasmania.com.au/northw...

CSIRO and I acknowledge the Pennemuker people, traditional owners of Kennaook / Cape Grim, and their continuing connection to their culture; and pay our respects to their Elders past and present.

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  • I deliberately waited to get a haircut until after filming this.

  • Tom Scott really is the world’s most successful tourist

    • Counterexample: Karl Pilkington

    • Except that one time he went to Slough

    • @Andrew JS Has he ever done a video on climate change? I bet that would be a chuckle

    • proud to be Indian

    • nas daily:

  • That audio was amazingly clear for that much wind. Props to your audio engineer and editors

    • Yes audio quality is mind blowing 🌬

    • @AkA_Donnie haha

    • @N1ppe Well to be fair, “audio engineer” isn’t really a term used by professionals. Sound editors, sound recordists, sound engineers, recording engineer, etc are all typical terms

    • @Pierce Maybe they didn't know they were called audio engineers.

    • I think you mean microphone company 😂😂

  • The fact that people donated their scuba tanks is so cool! What a nice collaborative effort this project has become. Humans cooperating about what's valuable to them is so nice to see.

  • As a Tasmanian, its both great to see you in our small state having watched you for years, but can certainly confirm the air quality in amazing, its actually very noticeable as soon as you leave the state and return.

    • Yea, but you guys have much much worse pollutants than whats found in regular air... Tasmanians.

    • @Bradley Ferguson also because the Ozone layer is thinner over Tas/Antarctica

    • @Mables Fatal Fable the oxymoron is unbelievable. Authoritarian regime, yet here you are freely speaking about it.

  • A 1956 Australian scuba tank would most likely have been filled by Alan Day or one of his mates at Squale Wetsuits since they had the only dive compressor in Victoria (where scuba started in OZ) at that time. Alan spent days filling tanks 24/7 when Harold Holt went missing while the other two partners dived in the search. A couple of years before his passing Alan was the technical advisor on Sanctum as he was a part of the actual rescue dives portrayed in the film. I'm chuffed that one of his fills may be helping science even today. EDIT: Oh Alan is also the guy who took the famous Great White photo used in the Amplimesh adverts in the 80s.

    • Squale as in the watch?

    • @Marvin De Bot what a nice counter comeback question , I must say!!

    • @Ein Felder The year

    • @Ein Felder Read it again. When he passed most of the other pioneers had already died, everyone understood what I meant.

    • @Ein Felder But they weren't alive at the time of HIS passing.

  • Welcome to Tassie Tom. As part of the team that built the adjacent wind farm I got the chance to visit the weather stations a number of times. One of our challenges when building the farm was making sure we didn't impact the sampling, especially greenhouse gases which they measure to parts per trillion, so no polystyrene on site at all.

  • I love this way of forward thinking. "There might be something in the air of the past and present we will only understand in the future so we conserve it now and will be able to test old air for it."

    • ​@lollycopter Indeed. Maybe we should be keeping blood samples of world record holders, so we can remove cheaters from record books in the future.

    • Reminds me of anti-doping in sport.

    • Yup, and even if it's not a new gas, new testing technology might be wayyyyy more accurate in the future :) (which reduces your margin of errors and greatly improves modeling, potentially)

    • We've seen that with NASA too. They store samples of the moon from the 70's lunar landings in lunar conditions because at the time they had no way of testing the frozen gases in the samples!

  • I have never NOT learned anything from your videos, mate. I was gonna ask how they filter out the oil that compressors usually contaminate the air they compress with, but I didn't realise that there was a completely different way to compress it like that. Very interesting

    • As a former repair/sales guy at local compressor specialists, I was fascinated too. There are several ways compressors avoid or remove oil, but none that leave a good sample for this purpose; they'd all mess with it in some way, especially down to parts per trillion. And Definitely none that would be consistent, constant & maintainable for this long.

    • @MrNicoJac can also mean something that got sucked in by the compressor, the obvious example being someone left a car idling too close.

    • Huh, if I go scuba diving, I'm not breathing oily air...? (I do remember a safety chapter on "if your air smells weird, don't trust it and do not dive with it" so I always assumed that would mean a faulty pump/valve)

    • Pull my finger for compressed air

    • @rhov233 Australians bro we can’t not use double negatives

  • As a Tasmanian chemistry student, this might be my favourite Tom Scott video! This is absolutely fascinating!

    • I saw the title and was instantly "oh I bet this is here" hehe. Absolutely thrilled that more people will know about some of the world leading science we do here.

    • Anything a CS-tvr unexpectedly produces about your home suddenly becomes the favourite 😆 I instantly recognised kennaook (visible disbelief)

  • CSIRO never fail to impress, i hope you keep teaming up with them

    • @capncoolio that's the advertising they tell us to try and ensure their funding isn't cut. Sure, their funding shouldn't be cut, but it's not a particularly accurate claim of theirs.

    • @Lachlan Geier They also invented WiFi!

    • Honestly awesome organisation, they do so much work that goes unnoticed. For example they invented the polymer bank notes that the majority of the world uses.

  • I'm loving this Australia tour! I'm learning so much about my own country I didn't know. Thanks Tom!

  • I love how a story resulted in other older air being contributed and accepted

    • Crowdsourced air

    • ​@78Mathius don't worry mate they'll just tell you everyone is being paid to lie

    • Jeez, who keeps full scuba tanks from the '50s?

    • Vintage air connoisseurs

    • Ecosia 👍

  • I grew up in Burnie, Tasmania - the biggest town in Northwest Tassie, and less than two hours drive from Cape Grim. Great to see that part of the world feature in a video. A little side note - the wind turbines in the background are the Woolnorth Wind Farm. Built over 20 years ago, back before wind farms were cool, and at a time before renewable energy was cool. Seeing the massive turbine blades being trucked through my home town on their way to the wind farm helped inspire me to go into the renewable energy industry (before it was cool).

    • Y’all know bout wynyard

    • Duck Reach hydro power station was powering Launceston in 1896!

    • Lived in Stanley for a couple years, occasionally went out to Woolnorth - back then it was all VDL farms

    • @Time4Breakfast Duck Reach would like a word ;)

    • @Cam I'm surprised nobody here has suggested that Burnie and Devonport are just West and East Ulverstone 🤣

  • Tom if you’re still in Australia you should make a video about the extremely radioactive capsule that just recently fell off a truck in WA and is now missing

    • Has been found now

    • @j Walster skippy wacked it in her pouch, soon there will be mutant skippys all over WA

    • @Time4Breakfast - Hopefully that literally stopped them from breeding and passing on the stupidity! 😂

    • Awhile ago I worked as a Lab Tech at a Uni. After the students finished radiation science practice classes, my job was to lock the room doors before they left, collect all the Cesium137 radioactive samples, check they were all returned and only then unlock the doors. Some of the little shits "thought?" it was clever to put the radioactive sources in their pockets and walk out!!🙄

    • @RedesCat Then see a doctor...

  • What I love about TS is that he always finds relatively ordinary people who are great scientific communicators because they're incredibly enthusiastic about the work they do.

  • The sound was shockingly good in that wind. And i had no idea this existed. Good job on both fronts!

  • Some of those bottles in the archives are old, repurposed oxygen tanks from WWII-era bombers :D The ones with the rings around them, and the channels running down the sides. (the one that says "Sea Eagle" at 3:40 ) I've actually got one sitting in my shed, someone made a shop air compressor out of it.

    • wow it's so cool that these tanks last such a long while

  • as an australian i can confirm i did not know we bottled our air

    • I did.

    • Some day it will be available in six packs at the local market, bottled under the Vidae brand.

    • @mattymerr701 selling most of precious resources why not air too ahahaha

    • same

    • @notahotshot what are your school shootings like over there? Just kidding 😂

  • Tom is moving around the world so quickly that it makes me question whether he has invented a teleportation device.

    • When you learn how, he's already got a video for you.

  • The air archivist looks exactly like I would imagine an air archivist in a Hollywood movie would look like. Also, that's a Starlink antenna on the roof.

    • Ha! When I saw him I too quietly thought, 'He looks like the perfect casting for his job.' I wasn't expecting others to feel likewise.

    • i feel sorry for that air storage facility’s empolyees

  • Hey Tom, I just want to say thank you for acknowledging the Traditional Owners in the description. Most people wouldn't have any idea to do that, and it really means a lot. I love your videos. You're one of the only channels I ever mention and suggest to my friends.

  • Video idea; was aware that saw Mills used metal detactors, only recently heard that they have some really high tech ones in Germany. Im guessing that's partly because it's Germany, but mostly because of the high amount of shrapnel and spent ordinance in the trees. Might just be me but thought it would be interesting to see. Keep on educating the Internet one video at a time! Cheers for the knowledge over the years.

    • now that's interesting

  • Tasmanian here!! I'm so happy you visited, I've always wanted to see you talk about the state! So so cool 💜

    • @Betula Same here! You can't come to Tassie without seeing at least one rainforest up close :P

    • Very pleasantly surprised that he came to this island. I hope he doesn't miss out on some of the other special things we have 😅

  • “I’m standing somewhere windswept and talking about infrastructure” will be the title of Tom’s autobiography!

    • @Josh Young True. Well said, thank you.

    • @JootjeJ ...you're literally watching his autobiography... don't forget to, y'know, enjoy what we have

    • @shadetee unfortunately I don’t think this facility counts as a “public place”

    • Now I am desperate to read his autobiography. Can we persuade him to write one?

    • Now all he needs is a kite. ;)

  • As someone who's had a little experience working with atmospheric data collection, it's neat to see the other ways and places it's done. I'm really impressed at how they can get all that air with so little contamination.

  • That's so cool! As a Tasmanian I knew our air was clean, but I didn't realize it could get quite that clean!

  • I use to drive past the CSIRO building in Aspendale and always wondered what kind of research they were doing. Great video Tom!

  • I'd be interested in also seeing the equipment used to "take a sniff", and how they get their readings

    • They’d use spectrometers and chromatography for that. Look up “Gas Chromatograph” and “Cavity Ring down Spectrometer”

    • same here

  • Finally, someone came to Tasmania and did not talk about the landscape, weather, or the animals. Yay! Thanks Tom!

  • New challenge: how many interesting wind swept places can we get Tom to talk about infrastructure at

    • I'd suggest my friends property. In itself, it's rather boring. Wind blows like a sob between mountain ranges, and he's in it. The most remarkable thing is, it has a great view of dust devils and these winds picking up "dust" from old copper mine tailing ponds and dumping it on a retirement community advertised with the slogan, "That Green Valley Grin". Yep, you can suck up valuable water while quickly dying on a golf course. Weird, no?

    • Well, there are a few more places in Tassie muahahahaha

    • How about this? We invest in much MUCH more infrastructure and it's a win win, he gets more places to discuss and humanity doesn't die in 50 years!

    • He was on My Washington, NH, US, right? It's the one accessible place that compete with Antarctica and remote and dangerous places for windspeed.

    • he's been working on that challenge for years now, didn't you know? the grind is real

  • That last line had me laughing. Standing somewhere windswept, talking about infrastructure is kind of your brand, Tom

  • Tom! You really gotta do a story about the Royal Flying Doctor Service my mate! Such an interesting story that needs to go around the world! Truly a revolution in Rural Area Medical Assistance and Rescue!

  • I had no idea that archives of air were kept in the world! Very interesting video, Tom! Thank you!

  • The fact that I live 5 minutes from this CSRIO and walk past it everyday to catch the train but had no idea this was it’s purpose is crazy

  • Tom finds amazing stuff but this is fantastic! What a scientific treasure trove to have air from decades ago! Very cool.

  • Not sure if having “the cleanest air in the whole world” is a compliment or a bad omen for the rest of the world… and what’s to come in the future

    • Probably why aussies look so healthy

    • Both!

    • It’s neither, it’s a statement of fact. Literally any air going over land or buildings is going to be “dirty” compared to the air that hasn’t.

    • @DOUGHBOY420 only reason for a lack of pollution there is because Tasmania has a rather small population, large amounts of nature, is physically seperated from the main landmass of Australia, and a decent amount of their electrical production is hydropowered.

  • I can’t believe Tom came to Tasmania! Although it might’ve already been in the works when I suggested it a while back, I’m so glad you took the opportunity to visit Cape Grim :)

  • YOU CAME TO TASSIE!!! IM SO PROUD OF YOU KING!!! I've been saying come Tassie for ages. I hope you enjoyed it and that you saw lots of natural beauty and enjoy our local produce. Thanks so much for coming down, Tom.

  • Thanks for another great video Tom. Nice to hear us Aussies have some clean air we can learn from 👍

  • I’m super curious how long they expect those tanks to last with the frequency of them taking samples and what that means for them many years down the line.

  • as someone born and raised in Tasmania, it's always nice to see people talk about it (:

  • Brilliant! I was in Cape Grim with this exact video lined up... and then previous government pulled the plug on me the night before we were meant to film (something about climate change). I'm so glad you got to share the awesome work they do there! Really excellent video

    • @Chris Tibballs The Tasmanian state government is still liberal.

    • @Chris Tibballs Correct.

    • I’m quite glad we are rid of the previous government, they were terrible at everything other than protecting their own interests.

    • Did they at least give you a free lump of coal for your trouble?

    • Oh my, Tom narrowly avoided being scooped by a former guest host? He was right, you're gonna replace him when he gets blown off one of these windswept places and disappears.

  • Yet another gobsmacking piece of new information about the world. Fascinating! I sometimes wonder how many topics are out there still waiting for Tom to cover them... I'd love to know what fraction of them he's already covered. Obviously the total number is finite, but probably rather large.

    • The world is a vast place with more topics than you could talk about if you spent your entire life. Especially because in the time of said life at least a hundred thousand lifetimes worth of more interesting topics will have shown up.

  • This is so fascinating and cool, thanks Tom for another interesting video! I bet if they looked at the old air from the 50's onward, they'd still be able to demonstrate the impact of leaded gasoline, nuclear tests, etc. had on the air we breathe

  • I love how much this organization bridges simple analog materials (tanks, cooling agents, air) with complex and evolving information (testing atmospheric pollutants, creating long-term profiles of air composition). I feel like that's one of the most resilient kinds of know-how.

  • Hey Tom, I'm from Tasmania. Welcome! I have always heard that we have the cleanest air in the world but always thought that was hyperbole. It definitely is noticeably fresher when you get off the plane here from elsewhere, even the short hop from Melbourne. I guess that it must be true, very interesting I learned something new about my home. Thank you!

  • I'm shocked at how GOOD the audio was in the intense wind, Tom!

  • We have water bottles and air bottles. Now we just need earth and fire bottles to master the elements.

    • @Scladoffle alcohol bender

    • Alright, got the air in kennaook, get the water in Port Davey, collect the dormant lava from the Nut, and some soil from the Darwin Crater

    • @JasonWolf lmaoo Jack be like!

    • Air bottles are already fire bottles, no open flame around oxygen tanks or something very explosive could happen.

    • @Red Mad Michael nobody ever said the bottle had to be closed... one could argue that a lit kerosene lamp is a fire bottle.

  • CSIRO does some really neat stuff. Tom could probably spend a year just doing CSIRO videos. Hopefully he has a few more to dripfeed us over time. Good to see you here in Oz. Pity you didn’t stop by for a beer.

  • That's actually a brilliant project, I had no idea we had such a thing. I can imagine the 'air bank' would be utilised by researchers world wide and hold greater value over time. Got a bit of a laugh with regards to the old scuba tanks story, that's some good thinking.

  • Nice place, Woolworth was a Royal Charter company, like the East India company, it was called the Van Diemans Land company. Cape Grimm had a colourful history. It is also where 2 Oceans and a Strait meet and the water flows backwards on a full moon

  • Amazing video Tom. Always surprised, delighted, and informed so well. Great work. Thanks for bringing us along with you.

  • Love all these videos in Australia. Cool to see some of the stuff we've got.

  • Fascinating video as always, Tom! Commenting this within 5 minutes of uploading, and I think there's something wrong with the captions right now? The interviewee has no captions and halfway through the video the captions just start running fast and looping. Hope this gets fixed soon for those in the community who are hard of hearing!

  • By far the coolest part about this is indeed the old scuba tanks being donated. That is just awesome.

  • It's amazing how there's a perfectly valid scientific explanation for weird projects like this... Every single time, science (and Tom) never fail to amaze me

  • Went on a cycle tour around Tassie in 2004 and one of my aims was to come here. Rode up to the research station, and a friendly researcher took us on a tour. So I've stood where Tom was standing, & saw a bottle filling up (through a glass door). also. It was very windy then as well; westerly IIRC. 'Twas a quick trip to Stanley that afternoon (due east).

    • Wait till Tom goes to the Nut and it becomes active once again just for him 🌋

  • I'm working in the PtX industry and a big part of my job is testing materials for use in future infrastructure with regards to transporting hydrogen. I'm surprised these tanks have not dropped massively in pressure over the years from diffusion through the tanks themselves. Although it happens slowly it surely does happen, right?

  • Thanks for doing what you do Tom a lot of us really appreciate it

  • We all know thanks to Gary that they're really saving their air to make radiation-free boxes of knives!

    • Just get the ruzzians to sell the 1944 T-34 tanks Laos gave them... Should be pre-nuclear enough. Sheesh, over 600 tons of pre-nuclear steel, what were you thinking, Laos?

    • What Gary failed to mention, actually, is that steel making processes have changed so they are using pure oxygen instead of atmospheric air for the creation of steel, so there aren't any (or at least very few) radioactive contaminants in the steel anymore. That was only a problem for a few decades.

    • so not for using on Gary's airhorn?

    • @Felix Johnson "Cooks the steak while you slice it!"

  • I’m impressed at how well you managed to keep the wind noise down

  • I seriously love how random your subject matter is, you cover stuff I would have never thought existed, keep up the good work.

  • As some one who live in Australia i didnt know we bottled air yet another thing i have learned from Tom

  • Wow, can’t believe Australia does the same thing to its air as I do with my emotions. What a coincidence!

  • Interesting side effect of having such clean air is that we have less pollution to stop UV, so as a result it only takes 15 mins to get quite sunburnt in Tasmania. If you ever visit, wear a hat, seek shade and wear sunscreen (during the Summer/Spring months at least).

  • Perri-Air...naturally sparkling. Salt free air. Canned in Druidia.

  • Paul was a great interview! All the local experts you have on do a good job but some stand out and Paul did! Succinct and very easy to understand explanations of such an interesting project!

  • Four Australian videos in a row, I could have walked right past one of my favourite CS-tvrs on the street and not even realized it!

  • You find the most interesting stuff as subject matter. Thanks to you & your research team for such informative videos.

  • As much as I love learning about these places, I really want to know where Tom finds them all as well. Fascinating stuff.

  • This is so cool. I wish I could be a part of something like this.

  • Interesting. I had a scuba tank from the 60's also. If I would have known, it would have been a good donation to the archives.

    • @Tjalve interesting, thank you :)

    • @ASTRAIOS I honestly don't know. Nitrogen is ALSO inert. For practical purposes in our body. But nitrogen is dissolved in the blood at higher pressures, and that cases problems at decompression. So I think the reason is that helium dissolves at a much lower rate in our blood. It does dissolve, so those divers using the helium mix also have to go through decompression. But not nearly as much as if you had used nitrogen. I think nitrogen also has a poisonous aspect to it. I think it makes you drunk at high pressures. But I don't know exactly. I'm not a diver. I just know stuff.

    • @Tjalve Thank you so much for the correction! The fact they use helium is unexpected, but interesting. Is it just because it's an inert gas?

    • @ASTRAIOS You're wrong. But sorta right. At higher pressures they need to get RID of the nitrogen. Because it's the nitrogen that causes diver's sickness. Oxygen can be poisonous at too high pressures, but I believe nitrogen gets dangerous before oxygen. But you are right. At deeper dives, they use a mix of oxygen and helium.

    • @Eagle0600 I think that would be for deeper dives, where they use a tri-mix of oxygen, nitrogen, and.... something. I'm not 100% sure though

  • It must feel some kind of way to plan a video with appointments, with flights, knowing that any number of things could go in an incredibly different direction. With different results from the intended.

  • I used to live out that way. Been to those wind farms on school trips. Amazing part of the world.

  • Had a classmate in college (in tasmania) want to bottle our air and sell it to china as a business idea for a business challenge. They didn't win the challenge but I can imagine the idea would've probably taken off

  • What a fantastic archive. Thanks for sharing it with us.

  • I remember going on eBay in high school and seeing jars of Bondi Beach air selling for $99 and thinking it was hilarious. Didn't know the government was doing something similar.

  • I thought that this might be a story about the next big trend... bottled air being added to the shelf space next to the bottled water. When I was a kid 50 years ago, there was no bottled water in the stores. That's just ridiculous! Now I drink bottled water! 😶

    • @Robert de Forest heh,

    • @Robert de Forest 😄

    • In Tokyo decades ago, when air pollution used to be high, there were people on street corners selling oxygen from big cylinders.

    • Back in my day the stores didn't even have shelves! Everything was in a pile in the middle of the store. It was incredibly inconvenient. I don't know why we did that. Shelves were definitely an improvement.

    • @Jehty I was going to ask as well, bottled water is not the best stuff.

  • That's quite fascinating, I had no idea they were doing that. And kudos to the production team, that recording can't have been easy.

  • I'm always curious to see where Tom ends up next. You could literally make any subject interesting. Great video Tom! :)

  • I really enjoy these short videos that showcase modern science at work.

  • as a tasmanian, i am really happy about our little triangle near the "edge of the world" is being talked about by a big youtuber!

  • For some reason I was picturing someone just putting lids on glass jars on the roof to take the samples. Now you've got me wondering though: I'm sure most things will condense by cooling using liquid nitrogen, but a few things dont, like trace Noble gasses or Hydrogen for example. I guess they're not testing for those.

  • Tom is the best journalist Edit: Wow, I've never seen the captions be so bugged in a Tom Scott video! Although I'm sure it will get fixed quickly.

    • The wind was blowing so hard it scrambled subtitles added in post production.

    • Still waiting for the corrections in Citation Needed for irons->ions and humans->humings. But oh well.

    • It was

  • “I’m standing somewhere windswept and talking about infrastructure.” Now that you point it out, I guess you've done that a lot, but each place has been unique, fascinating, and a pleasure to learn about. Thanks!

  • Now that I've heard about the Air Archive I naturally want to hear about the Water, Earth and Fire Archives.

    • Everything changed when the fire archive attacked.

  • This is so amazing! To think ahead and do this is so ingenious and great!

  • Glad to see you were blown away by the scenery and science!

  • Nice to see you in my home state of Tasmania, I hope you had a good time down here Tom.

  • Australia about to become o’hare 💀

  • I don’t know what kind of wizard Tom is but getting this good sound in that kind of wind is magic

  • So far you've filmed at two Australian organisations/facilities I've worked for (never made it to Cape Grim before resigning a couple of weeks ago though). If you next end up at Siding Spring Observatory and start talking about the computer control system, I'm going to start wondering.

  • This is one of those things that I had no idea that it existed, but now that I've heard the explanation for it, it makes perfect sense that it does exist.

  • Right up until the end I was thinking about scuba tanks and whether they would be applicable or not. I'd imagine that they would be interesting more from a curiosity point of view. Having filled plenty of tanks myself and seeing how the compressors work, they would almost certainly be contaminated by all sorts of muck from the filling process and inevitable internal corrosion from lack of service. However, they may still have trace amounts, or lack of trace amounts of chemicals like CFCs that could not be formed or captured in the filling process. Not sure what the longevity of the cylinders would be though, I'd be interested to see how they would store them and check that! :D

    • For anyone about to jump on the 'muck from the filling process' I am aware of the pre-filtering, but given some of those cylinders are older than the archive, I can imagine that not all of those fillers were filtered quite like we do now.

  • Resisting the urge to take a big huff of vintage 1970s air. Good job, Tom!

  • Tom Scott is a national treasure he deserves to be knighted for his hard work

    • No one should have to suffer that.

    • Probably a nice big stack of cash would be more appreciated. Just guessing, as an American.

  • Amazing video. CSIRO definitely has a great diversity of work!

  • That audio was so impressively clear. I would have expected the wind to blow it out way more, wind socks must really be great nowadays.

  • I’m loving these Tom Scott down under videos! Welcome to our country! Also I got a glass blown viral from a forge near by, so I have a sample of the worlds cleanest air! 😂